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Coldwaterpaddler wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:36 am My only slant is a 1928. Maybe I'll check it out soon. Ran it last weekend and it was really dim.

Do slants typically run Q77?

After the T88 was discontinued, the Q77 would become standard from my understanding.

Those iron generators are handy for converting slants to a T88 style gen 😁 How is that? Use the gen tip on a different gen? I noticed that these 603-299 generators are the same tube as the Q77. Here's how I do it. https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39058 Hmmmm...so, most sla...

Coldwaterpaddler wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:46 am
Tgarner01 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:27 am Those iron generators are handy for converting slants to a T88 style gen
How is that? Use the gen tip on a different gen?

I noticed that these 603-299 generators are the same tube as the Q77.

Here's how I do it.

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/ ... =6&t=39058

These cheapy cans were not designed to be "bled off". Once you open the valve the pressure will equalize. Once this happens the liquid from the supply tank will gravity over to the horizontal tank which will only fill to where the nozzle is screwed into the tank. Leaving enough (safe amount) of head...

Those iron generators are handy for converting slants to a T88 style gen

outlawmws wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:34 pm Why are they filling on the side? needs to be vertical...

To keep from filling it completely full and leaving headspace as liquid won't compress.

Mike, I'm not much of one to give up parts I may need someday, but if you have some other old parts to trade I might be interested. This one is in my parts bin for a someday project. It appears that I've heated and oiled it in the past, and it's moving. At the moment anyhow 😁 https://i.postimg.cc/43...

..... I normally would, but the FA tube is not removable on these stoves. I think they are on the 500a (i have never owned one), but not on the 500. I may just hang it in my US cleaner so that the packing stays out of the cleaning solution. Huh? Admittedly, all of mine are US production, but: https...

Picked this little thing up off of marketplace last night. I'm always late for marketplace finds, but this one had some advertising issues, so that may have helped me. Keep your eyes peeled in the collections section this evening as I'm well in my way to a runner. https://i.postimg.cc/xCf1v2k3/Scree...

Looks like old fuel still to me. Steve is right. Lye would be best. Put a couple inches of water in the fount, then add your lye to that. Maybe a 1/4 cup roughly. If the fount gets warm it's working 😁 It still looks like a glaze of old fuel is still there. Would another lye soak be in order? https:...

Toby--Sure enough, I swapped the valve/gen assembly from my 500A (the best runner of the three until now) for the one from the painted 500. The painted 500 now runs like a top, and the 500A now needs work. I've had these issues before and I always figured if a fella would put the needle and/or the ...

The majority of painted 242B's in 41 are November. A fella on Facebook recently found a strange outlier that was dated 5/41. Great days pickin'!

Toby--I'm terrified of taking the needle out of a valve stem. I had some bad experiences with that when I was younger and it left me mentally scarred. I can just take the entire valve assembly off another one and see if that helps. Then get my courage, patience and penetrating oil together if it do...

Timm if you swap the gen with one of your other 500's does it still do the yellow flame? I've had worn needles that would do similar.

Hard to beat lye or oven cleaner. Even a good degreaser will cut soot.

I've had to do this on a couple stove burners. Some of those early cast mixing chambers are tough to access, but these cables will really evict the mud daubers

Great find there Poncho!!

This area has graphite packing compressed in it. You either need to take a pick and scrape it out, or a torch and get it good and hot, then pull.

Yes any eccentric from a 220/228B - 220/228F should work. The earliest B models had an oddball eccentric, but the odds of you getting one is slim.. Even some of the later 220/228's may work, but I've forgotten.

Sending PM

If it starts without flooding, and doesn't use up air pressure with the lever down I'd be happy

Looks like an Ash flash or a rebrand of such.

The grain is going the wrong direction on that handle. It would've broke eventually with correct use. Ideally one wants strait grain with the handle. Also try to find where the grain does not run out lower on the handle as well. This is hard to do nowadays as must handles are sawn out instead of spl...

My two have this setup.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52933641695_2c07e2046c_b.jpg Works OK. One mantle doesn't fill completely, which is a puzzle as I ran a cable through all the passages in the burner. I hope I haven't wasted a "Type A Heavy-Duty Type" Silkie! The valve doesn't even begin to shut off. I'll have to...

Huntaholic wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 11:45 pm Ok, I just looked through mine and mine are all CL2, same date range, whats the difference?

Single vs. double mantle

Heat and quench is the go to for nearly all stuck threads. Anytime you can heat the outer piece faster than the inner piece the more chance you have of breaking the two items apart. When working with a mixing chamber and vent stud one is trying to heat a much larger outer piece, so the smaller inner...

Curious to see how the fount looks after plating.

Looks like old fuel still to me. Steve is right. Lye would be best. Put a couple inches of water in the fount, then add your lye to that. Maybe a 1/4 cup roughly. If the fount gets warm it's working

I like that B!

That one will clean up nicely!

I'm not a big Turner guy, but I always liked this double valve design.

Good days pickin's!! The left Air-O has a Nulite vent on it. I have seen this a lot. Enough for me to wonder if Coleman didn't buy out some Nulite stock and sell them as replacements maybe. Is that mica a brass frame? The 427 looks to be 30's for sure. A look at the base stamp and other features may...

dbosch wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 2:44 pm What different sizes of founts were made? 458/575 - 1 gal fuel; 457/460 - 2 gal fuel

I believe you need to bump your figures one gallon each.

Everybody needs at least one HGP in their fleet

Looks like a great area to camp out. Cool old stoves also!

Jared, thank you for the photos. It does appear to have some later parts on it. Does it have the patent stamps on the air tube?

Turn your mobile device to landscape mode and it'll show.

We're all glad to have you here Ian. Uncommon lantern, thanks for sharing.

If you weren't a collector before, you are now

Great find!

Jared, thank you for the photos. I have to say the blank spot in the frame with no holes is as strange as the factory looking lighting door. I sure wish this thing could talk 😁 Have a close look at this area of the air tube for small dimples. They can be tough to see. I'm wondering if it may have a ...

I agree with Steve. A hot lye soak first.

The horror

Thank you Brian. It's packed and headed your way by morning.

Thanks for the interest everyone. I've got more items coming up as I find boxes that fit

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/ ... 177&hilit=

Great project!

LongueCarabine wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 9:55 pm PM coming with questions.

Replied Brian, thanks.

Good stuff Ken! My buddy George stopped in today. He always has something good. And I'm a sucker for old boxes 😁 inside was a B/47 228D with some rough paint, but minty otherwise. https://i.postimg.cc/PJzZYnR1/PXL-20230524-211254864-2.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/m2B7RhPj/PXL-20230524-211302553-2.jpg ht...

I can't speak for Coleman stoves (altho I suspect they do to) but the 242 and 242A with the NRV also have the snorkel pump tube just like the 220/228B's of the same period. One can easily swap in the later check valve/air stem setup and be perfectly safe doing so.

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