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I'd use that little guy for bait!

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Welcome from California(the good part

)! Better start making some room, once you've got the bug, stoves and lanterns add up in a hurry!

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Sad news. Seems to me Newell could care less about the Coleman brand.. I broke down and bought one of the new Coleman coolers a few months back, took it camping and was happy with it. Went to use it a few weeks ago and the lid had warped so much that it wouldn't even seal. I left it in the sun and i...

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Nice score!

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Nice! 413's are the perfect stove for camping in my opinion

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JIML: Im in Colorado Springs! RUSTYTANK: I would be happy to meet you!!! MAJICWRENCH: I have to pump fast as air gushes out of the center tube of the pump stem! Is your last name polish??? Joke! DEANSIERRAS220: It belches from the center, this when I do not have the stem in! I went to Lundy Lake an...

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If the check valve is leaking badly I doubt you are getting enough pressure into the fount to run the lantern. I have had good luck pouring vinegar into the tube and leaving it for a day or two, if that doesn't work I have also used boiling citric acid solution the same way. I've never had to replac...

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Turning up the tip cleaner towards the end of shut down is a good idea. These little guys sound like little milspec's! There is no air stem on these lanterns, the end oh the pump shaft is threaded. That's your positive shut off, so while your pumping up the lantern I try to keep the pump centered a...

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Coldwaterpaddler wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:58 am Didn't you just find a 290A with the deluxe globe? Man, you're on a roll! Congrats!

I did, lol. Feast or famine around here!

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AGM LR 21 or 21A--don't recall the difference. I've restored two, so if you have questions, ask. Yours is in great shape! Thanks. I took it apart and fooled with it this afternoon just to see how everything works. Never tinkered on anything but Coleman products so it was cool to see how other manuf...

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brucesheehe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:46 am That is the one with the good - safe pump - no crappy O-Rings.

When shutting off the lantern, turn up the cleaning needle to avoid a backfire (due to no screen) and blowing out the mantle.

Thanks, the mantle that was on there was blown out on the bottom, maybe that's why

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No screen is correct. They were made by AGM and are the Kamplite clones. Look in the Tech Archives and there is an old thread by previous member Kyle who gives dating info based on features like the pump knob. Most made in the 1950’s. Here it is… https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/viewtopic.php...

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Picked up my first Higgins today and I know absolutely nothing about them. I fooled around with it a little today and think it will run. I have a few questions if anyone could answer I would be grateful. Who manufactured them? Theres no manufacturing date, when were they produced? What size mantles ...

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Stumbled across this JC Higgins this morning at my local Antique store. Don't know a thing about them but for 25 bucks I wasn't about to leave it it behind. Vent is almost pefect. Had a nice sunrise globe from a 50's 200A on it. The vendor was going to take it off and put it on a 70's 200A he had bu...

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I converted mine to kero and stuck 24As on it. Super bright I've been wanting to do a kero conversion. Those 21's do look kinda puny with that huge globe. 24's would look a lot better. What generator did you put on? 639 generator screws right on That's all you have to do? 639 generator and a prehea...

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Huh. A Powerhouse label on a green fount means a model 290, right? I have a model 290 with the Powerhouse label and a green fount but it has a completely different arrangement for the globe/frame/bail. Was that a production change or is one of ours a frankelantern? Don't quote me but from what I ga...

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mksmth wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:45 pm I converted mine to kero and stuck 24As on it. Super bright

I've been wanting to do a kero conversion. Those 21's do look kinda puny with that huge globe. 24's would look a lot better. What generator did you put on?

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The bulge globe is a number 660. The replacement listed in Steve’s note is the regular straight sided No. 330 globe that fits model 220/228 lanterns ( part # 690-048). So, the #660 is the "deluxe globe", I guess. I can tell you that I tried 637 and 639 globes in my 290A and they are too short and r...

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Kgam1020 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:34 pm The Powerhouse lanterns are really bright. I have 5 of them, one is unfired. They are great lanterns. You did good on that one Jared!

Thanks! Also snagged a 295 powerhouse for 10 bucks yesterday, runs but needs a little fettling, but it's in good condition. Looking forward to comparing the two

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The bulge globe is a number 660. The replacement listed in Steve’s note is the regular straight sided No. 330 globe that fits model 220/228 lanterns ( part # 690-048). So, the #660 is the "deluxe globe", I guess. I can tell you that I tried 637 and 639 globes in my 290A and they are too short and r...

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The check valve is not supposed to be a perfect seal, just tighten down the air stem and you should have no leaks. Is cup leather or neoprene? WHat do you mean by "it's a little hard to pump"? It's neoprene. You can hear air rushing through when you take your thumb off of the pump hole. By hard to ...

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stoves1234 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:54 am You got lucky, it has the bulge globe.

When I first saw the bulge globe I thought it was a 639, didn't know 290's came with them

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Picked this up today at a yard sale. All I did was wipe it down, gas it up and put on some peerless mantles. This sucker is BRIGHT. The picture doesn't do it justice. Can't wait to take it camping

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Mister_Wilson wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:13 am The check valves are the same as earlier lanterns, so if it truly is the cv, use the methods that have worked for you in the past.

Ok thanks, I was just concerned about it getting into the fount and messing up the fuel/air tube

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Is the check valve leaking or is the neoprene pump cup bad? Assuming it is, in fact, neoprene. They tend to get little cracks in them and won't build pressure. The valve leaks air pretty bad. The pump cup looks good, added some oil. It's a little hard to pump but it builds enough pressure to light ...

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Picked up a 295 today. Brought it home and the check valve leaks. It pumps but doesn't build a lot of pressure and the valve leaks pretty bad.. I don't have a lot of experience fettling the newer coleman products. Before I tear into it I'm curious as to how you guys go about fixing a stuck check val...

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Lordy! I'd walk on hot coals for those

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Thanks I'm pretty happy. Also snagged a 295 at another yard sale. Good day of hunting

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Good find! Clean it up and see how good it looks. If you're not satisfied, strip it and repaint. Love those Christmas Lanterns. I also found mine in an antique store for 30 or 35 bucks. Antique stores are kinda funny, I've seen 220k's for 70 dollars in some, and 200's for 25-35 in others. All depend...

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Was headed to a yard sale listed on Craigslist when I drove past another one that happened to be on the same street. Saw this in the driveway, slammed on the brakes and snagged it for 5 dollars. And it works

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Wow, wasn't going to any yard sales tomorrow but I sure am now. What a find!

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Ordinarily I'd say fire it. But gold bonds aren't exactly ordinary, so, no way would I fire it. It's way too valuable. But it's yours, do what you want

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Thanks everyone. Think I'll just get a new valve from ocp

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A Seabee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:08 am that little piece turns and moves the eccentric up and down
I think you have to get a valve from another model lantern to get a metal eccentric block

Thanks. So I need a new valve?

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Picked up a 288 from 3/84 in a lot I purchased last month. Decided to take it apart and get it going today. Going to be more work than I thought. Don't know a lot about the newer stuff but did these come with a plastic e block? It appears to be melted and won't come out. Is it removable? Also when I...

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Lye will work a lot faster and better than vinegar ever will. Just my two cents

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Estate sales in my neck of the woods are insane. Ebay sellers galore. If you see anything you want you basically have to sleep in your car to be first in line. Just not worth the trouble, but sometimes it is for something good

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Thanks. I'll keep looking, eventually one will turn up.

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Sad! Unless I’m buying from someone I know I’ve learned to stay away from lots of founts or even a bare fount. There’s usually a reason all the parts are removed from a fount. It was attached to a 200A frame, with a 242 bail, lol craziest thing I've ever seen. But yes I learned a good lesson, but a...

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I had a 242 fount with a solder patch on the side of the fount. I torched it off to see what it looked like. It turned out that there was no leak on the side, but when dunk testing it, found it was leaking at the seam in the base. I would clean that off to be certain. From here, it looks like India...

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Recently bought a lot of 13 lanterns, mainly for this 242 fount. Just discovered why it was in the lot, it's junk

Don't know why but 242's seem to be my unicorn, oh well, one day..

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Hard to turn that down

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Tgarner01 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 12:31 am As long as it takes... I heat mine which seems to speed it up some.

Thanks. Got a 242C fount in a lot I bought, worst I've ever seen. Not much rust but absolutely filthy inside. Someone had it attached to a low vent 200A frame, trying to pawn it off as a Christmas lantern I suppose. Kinda funny

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I recently started using lye inside some of my founts and am very impressed. I am just curious,how long everyone leaves lye inside of a fount? Thanks

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Murff wrote: ↑Sat May 21, 2022 1:53 am Nice score/ A 275 globe, if you find one, will work!

Murff

Thanks!

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What Walmart are you shopping at?

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Found my first Sears Lantern today, 1972 model 72243 . Came in an assorted lot. How hard is it to find a globe for one of these?

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JimL wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 12:07 am Here's a generator tip list. Save a copy! Copies on the net seem to be disappearing.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160416072 ... 202009.htm

Thank you!

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The 220/228 orifice is .008" diameter and the 200a uses one that is .007" diameter. Prickers are likewise different sizes. For the 220/228 the pricker is a .007" wire and the 200a is a .006" wire. Thank you. I was rebuilding a few today and got the tips mixed up. Rookie move. Shouldn’t have mixed g...

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This may be a stupid question, but. Is the gas tip on the generator the same size on a 220 as a 200a?

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Uncle Sidney ~~ Prison Philosopher Says:
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