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by Dashwood
Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:06 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 220F vs current model 285/295
Replies: 32
Views: 254

Re: 220F vs current model 285/295

Quicklites are the superior models.... Easily adjustable by lowering the pressure.... As are the B-K models... And the B-F models are easy to disassemble once you have done one... I have write-ups showing the process. I'd be super wary about having to vent out literal volatile fuel vapors from a CF...
by Dashwood
Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:26 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 220F vs current model 285/295
Replies: 32
Views: 254

Re: 220F vs current model 285/295

Despite any "collectability" concerns ..... I have to go with the 295. Also adds the dimming function which is great in the campgrounds when near "neighbors. You can emulate some dimming function with careful fiddling of the pricker. Despite what others claim that only the new lanterns can. The fun...
by Dashwood
Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:07 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 220F vs current model 285/295
Replies: 32
Views: 254

Re: 220F vs current model 285/295

From one who has messed with all, give me a 220F or anything older over the newer 285/290/295. Just my opinion of course but I hate things dependent on a bloody schrader valve. Yes, they work great for holding air in tires but for delivering fuel, :cf_yuk: Murff Been reading a lot of debate on olde...
by Dashwood
Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:43 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 220F vs current model 285/295
Replies: 32
Views: 254

Re: 220F vs current model 285/295

"Is there any particular preference between the two for those who have them?" The 285 has a clever operating design that streamlines the starting/operating procedures and is probably less expensive to make. There's always that risk of one of the crimps on the burner tubes will slowly thermal cycle ...
by Dashwood
Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:30 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 220F vs current model 285/295
Replies: 32
Views: 254

220F vs current model 285/295

Is there any particular preference between the two for those who have them? I like the fact that virtually everything on a 220F is serviceable right down to nitty gritty. Even going as far as being able to disassemble the entire burner assembly such as mixing chamber, tubes and caps. This is a big b...
by Dashwood
Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:58 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Are new mantles brighter?
Replies: 16
Views: 427

Re: Are new mantles brighter?

Old Cat wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:50 pm I have experienced better luck with the newer Coleman 21s over last years batch.
Where does one source these red packs of 21s?
by Dashwood
Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:49 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Are new mantles brighter?
Replies: 16
Views: 427

Re: Are new mantles brighter?

If they are new red package 21s, then they very well may be brighter. I've noticed the newest batch of 21s are really good, a step or two up from the dark green package and better than new Peerless. Yeah, I said it. Coleman mantles are better than Peerless now. I'm inclined to agree with you. I've ...
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:07 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

Yes, little tricks like that are many and about. I wouldn't be particularly surprised that the mantles hadn't been produced under strict quality control these days. Mantle production are no longer staple industries as they used to be anymore. Batch to batch variations are expected and there are def...
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:02 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

Did a test today with some new #95 mantles. After affixing them, I prestretched the top and bottom ends of the mantle by tugging them excessively on the supports and burner. Then I've preburned with a very soft flame. (trusty zippo). They no longer excessively shrink once lit, not sure if it's a bat...
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:08 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Mantles, lefties issue
Replies: 15
Views: 212

Re: Mantles, lefties issue

I don't know about you, but I've noticed many times on dual mantle lanterns and lamps that the left hand side hangs down more or is shorter than the right. Can't seem to always get them to be the same height. I usually tie on the right first, maybe it has to do with pulling the material to get it e...
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:13 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

220F is a fine lantern. You should be able to make it work without much trouble. But then, it'd likely not be as fun and challenging as what you're at now. There are other little tricks you can still try out on the Northstar. That's provided you have a whole bunch of inexpensive #95 mantles at hand...
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

"It seems these mantles have some of the worst thermal expansion of any mantles I've came across. The hole gets bigger when it cools." That's due more to shrinkage than expansion. The amount could vary from batch to batch. It might eventually rip apart at full-throttle. There isn't much you can do ...
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:36 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

Tgarner01 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:37 am Looks good in that picture
There's a tear down at the bottom that slowly gets bigger with each firing.

It seems these mantles have some of the worst thermal expansion of any mantles I've came across.
The hole gets bigger when it cools.
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:34 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

#95 mantles still developing holes, is there anything I'm doing wrong?'

Here's my DF Northstar Lantern with said mantles.


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by Dashwood
Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:18 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Midstate 710 mantles modded into coleman #95
Replies: 2
Views: 117

Midstate 710 mantles modded into coleman #95

These mantles are ginormous and was curious if it was possible to tie both *ends* of this mantle to fashion a tube mantle and burn them in for my Northstars. These 710 form into a large bulb if you're wondering, almost the size of a regular 60w incandescent bulb. I made the mistake of affixing one i...
by Dashwood
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:13 am
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Profane vs wg tube mantles
Replies: 7
Views: 243

Re: Profane vs wg tube mantles

That was my bad on the camera angle there. I did have the meter on the side. Today I swapped the mantle out on it and pumped it a good 100 times until it barely took any more, and I got the lux meter to almost read what the propane one did. For some reason it just seems to burn a bit more yellow th...
by Dashwood
Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:10 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

An update: Just informing other owners of current propane Northstars. Under the screw on the knob there is a set screw that is keyed by an Allen wrench. You can adjust the flow of fuel entering the burners. Turning counterclockwise reduces flow while clockwise increases it. Hope this will alleviate ...
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:31 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

I honestly think it's due to the burner height on the most recent Northstar offering from Amazon, they are staggeringly high. But other people don't seem to have much issue with theirs. I've fired without the mantles to see if the flame burns properly and it seems the white flame cone burns well bel...
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:17 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

Its good that you find the China-mantles work well enough. At least the prices should be low enough that it won't be too heartbreaking when the mantles get damaged. Any lantern, be it liquid-fueled or propane, would have a jet. Usually, propane lantern jets/gas tips would have larger orifices than ...
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:53 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

Do these new propane Northstars have jet or oriface? I have a feeling maybe my Northstar's jet is maybe loose and could be tighten to reduce the amount of gas and airflow from blowing out the mantles assuming it's possibly leaking. It does flicker alot with a bit of a roar.
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:06 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

An update to the #95 mantle debacle. I have decided to undertake an experiment and literally bought out all the current inventory of old new-stock #95 mantles from OCP These older #95 mantles have a different model number vs the current offerings you run into like amazon or probably walmart. These o...
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:47 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

We'll never know for sure the quality of these mantles. In my location, I could get them pretty cheap. A 4-pack would cost just the equivalent of 4.10 USD with no additional freight charges. Shipping from Mainland China. This would be what they look like:- https://i.postimg.cc/2SCVysPf/f220a4836129...
by Dashwood
Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:14 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

Sometimes, mantles behave differently. This time again, follow the instructions that came with the propane Northstar exactly and fully pre-burn the mantle uniformly with a soft flame that isn't too hot. A good match or butane lighter would do. With a soft, uniform burn, the mantle will still retain...
by Dashwood
Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:08 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

No matter how gentle I do the burn, and how loose and saggy they get, they shrink up so much even under low pressure that they just tear off from the bottom mantle support.
by Dashwood
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:32 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

I have not had any problems with Coleman #95's. I start the flame from a small torch or BB Q lighter at the bottom and then work my way up to the top when burning them in. Let it sit for about 10 minutes to let everything cool and then light it up with the electronic lighter on the lantern. You can...
by Dashwood
Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:14 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

Re: #95 Mantle burn in.

I would much prefer retaining the use of these tube mantles. I know there are other brand 95's out there and was wondering which is the best that people have ran into (Tried American Mantles, they just fall apart looking at it).
by Dashwood
Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:04 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: #95 Mantle burn in.
Replies: 35
Views: 641

#95 Mantle burn in.

I for the life of me cannot set these mantles. They keep ripping in short order, even curing it under low pressure.
It seems the #95's are way too short for the new northstars vs the CF version.

Any tips on preburning these mantles? I tried everything.
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:58 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF
Replies: 12
Views: 332

Re: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF

...but did you get the old one fixed? I'm sure there are more in existance, even if we have to hit eBay, so don't feel bad about using it. Beyond that, there's always parts lanterns, like for everything else. I have not yet sadly. My skill levels with brazing is non-existent and still unsure how I ...
by Dashwood
Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:11 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF
Replies: 12
Views: 332

Re: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF

Any one else have a Northstar 2000 develop a loose burner? The replacement burner assembly just came today and I gave a good examination of the burner tube. It seems locked good in place in the plenum. Of course being the only spare in my knowledge in existence, I would rather not use it.
by Dashwood
Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:17 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF
Replies: 12
Views: 332

Re: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF

Most had been using muffler or stove cement for these kind of fixes with pretty good success. However, if you don't quite fancy that stuff, there are still other options. I would often use a combination of copper antiseize compound and mantle tie-strings for the job. That's only because it seals we...
by Dashwood
Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:16 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF
Replies: 12
Views: 332

Re: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF

Supposedly doesn't really last long unless you use gobs amount of that stuff until it looks like you have a turd under your plenum, probably need to source a local welder to braze it in place for a neater look.

I'm willing to buy this replacement part if anyone has a spare.
by Dashwood
Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:31 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF
Replies: 12
Views: 332

Spinning burner on Northstar 2000 CF

Recently acquired a new dual fuel Northstar which has a nasty habit of ripping the #95 mantles on their ends after a while. I've discovered the top burner tube has worked itself loose and is now spinning freely. Is this normal? Doesn't seem to be a way to tighten it or fixate it. Can't source a new ...

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