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RolandChevalier

I'm so sorry to hear this Ed. I will light a nice Canadian tonight.

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I made it.

Thanks for your help and patience Murff!

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Check Check Test!

I read you 5 by 5 Murff!

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I bought 100 of these Viton Schrader valves. I'm willing to sell them unmodified if you are in a pinch. I would have to get $2.00 each plus shipping from Canada. Shipping would probably be $2 or $3 per package.

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Found it! <a href="https://www.schrader-pacific.com/media/pdf/Valve%20Core%20Brochure.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="https://www.schrader-pacific.com/media/pdf/Valve%20Core%20Brochure.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.schrader-pacific.com/media/pdf/Valve%20Core%20Brochure...

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The number I quoted was for a Viton Schrader valve.

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807-3S are what i bought from a Parker Distributor. Keep in mind that for use in an EasiLite they have to be modified. The knob diameter has to be removed from the pin. Make sure you don't shorten the pin in the process. THIS IS IMPORTANT. I WILL SAY IT AGAIN - THIS IS IMPORANT !

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I am pleased!

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My pal Steve in one of my favourite pictures. I love it when people show appreciation for quality Canadian Lanterns. :-) <a href="http://s588.photobucket.com/user/RolandChevalier/media/Gatherings/2012%2008%20Aug%2024-26%20True%20North/201208Aug25-035.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollo...

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Get the collar off and stick the body in a vice with soft jaws. Use a box end wrench and it will come off.

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Ok, I get that Steve. You are really setting the bar quite high with this thread. Setting a fine example for the young'uns. :-)

RolandChevalier

A regular Coleman pump works perfectly, no need to fuss with hoses and fittings. Try it, you'll like it. :-)

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A plain old Coleman pump will work just fine. I use one all the time with my Model R.

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More great info Steve, thanks for sharing. I was surprised to see machined burner caps as mine appear to be cast. <a href="http://s588.photobucket.com/user/RolandChevalier/media/Model%20R/2014%2003%20Mar%2017%20-%20006a_zpsvqfx5ryf.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img class="bbc...

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Don't hate me.. four actually, one is cased green.

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OUCH Steve, that really sucks! Sorry to hear that. Hard to tell exactly why the shade broke, but your explanation sounds plausible. I usually just touch the glass then back off a 1/4 turn, just cuz it seems about right. Not sure if this is a good rule, or I've just been lucky so far. One of my No. 7...

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I remember that Phil offered a really neat explanation for the valve, but Ill be damned if I can remember what he said.

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Nice Steve! Looks like you should end up with a brass handle version and fibre handle version? That would be most awesome.

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Great news Steve. It's a miracle you found a valve.

A regular Coleman pump will work just fine, that's all I've ever used. The valve retainer screw wheel diameter is 3/4" on the one's I have seen.

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Yes, a wire clip.

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Thanks for the credit Steve, but that's Ken and Carol's lamp with my shade on it. That picture was taken at a gathering at my house in the fall of 2013. I found my 141 some time after that pic was taken. Here is my lamp. <a href="http://s588.photobucket.com/user/RolandChevalier...

RolandChevalier

That theory makes an awful lot of sense Phil!

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Some times a little whack is appropriate Steve! Glad things seem to be working out for you pal.

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Well I'll be a son of a ..... Thanks for sharing that Steve. That gen tubing is pretty substantial. I bet you could wail on that rod and force the guts out. Clean the rod and bore, and replace the packing with new torch wick or the like. Keep us informed. Upon reflection I consider myself...

RolandChevalier

I don't see a pic Steve?

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I didn't look at that detail very closely when I had it apart Steve. My impression was that it was a loop of wire to hold/insert the packing material. The end appears to be crimped so as to hold the wire and packing in place.

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Nice start Steve, I hope you come up with all the parts. I use a regular Coleman pump and just press it against the hole. Works fine. Here is a breakdown of the burner. Yes, it takes a No. 74. shade. They are hard to find, but not impossible. <a href="http://s588.photobucket.co...

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Wow Voos, you have performed a miracle! That there is some truly exceptional work. Mine was still loose with a new pin so I soft soldered it the same way.

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I have a serious case of stove envy!

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The air pressure works quite well and is safe because there is no source of ignition. I'm not sure how the vac pump is powered, but I suspect there would be the potential of pulling liquids and crap into the pump. The only shortcoming of the jar is that't it's not really a safe pressure (15psi) vess...

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That's a neat idea Sam. I think it would be very difficult to clean that crap and water that would accumulate though.

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Another member here has made a copy and sourced his items from the Internet. He asked me a bunch of questions and then I never heard from him again.

Paging raftrask are you there? Come in raftrask.

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I'm a bit embarrassed to say this but thought I should share my experience in the interest of safety. Tonight I was using the Fountmaster and experienced a jar failure. Early in the evening I had noticed a crack in the bottom of the jar I had been using. I put the jar aside but did not throw it out....

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Great write up John. I bet that set up will get a lot of use.

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Yes it's Tuesday Stan. Ah Rabbit yea, yea!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOYj2SrnvKw

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Yes exactly Steve, you've got it. What you have there is actually called a micrometer.

RolandChevalier

Steve, the extra numbers are for measuring 0.0001" increments. One of those lines will exactly align with one of the 0 to 25 numbers on the outside of the spindle. That is the number of ten thousandths of an inch.

RolandChevalier

The clicky knobby thing (ratchet stop) provides a constant pressure when taking a reading. Use it to rotate the thimble and the force will be constant from reading to reading. You can imagine if you really tightened the thimble hard you would spread the frame and get an erroneous measurement. When y...

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<a href="http://s588.photobucket.com/user/RolandChevalier/media/IMGP6328.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img class="bbc_img" src="http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/RolandChevalier/IMGP6328.jpg"></a> Ok Steve, here ya go again. Notice that the thimble is numbered 0-25, so one ...

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Yes I measured the two pumps. Both plugs look to be legit parts. Pump Depth of Ball from Face Plug Length Gap ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good 0.161" 0.120" 0.041" Bad 0.191" 0.135" 0.056" The di...

RolandChevalier

Yes 0.125". You might have 3.5mm (.137")

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Use your micrometer, there are metric ones that are close, but no cigar.

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The balls are 1/8" diameter ball bearings. I got 20 from a bicycle shop yesterday for 10 cents each. A lifetime supply.

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Oh dear Lord! It amazes me sometimes to see the things people try to make things work. Thanks for the entertaining pics Steve.

RolandChevalier

It would be interesting to see a picture Steve.

RolandChevalier

The lantern appears to have had very light use Steve, and it's not full of tool marks. My best guess it that it never ran well so it sat a lot. Not being able to pump it up would explain that. I seem to have fixed it by reducing the ball clearance, and my other pump that works well has less c...

RolandChevalier

Solder in place? Not that I know of, but they can be buggers to get loose. See earlier posts about deep sockets and an impact wrench. I used a line wrench (see post 23) and made sure to hold it very squarely on the nut. I gave the end of the wrench a few careful whacks to break the nut loose. A frie...

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Houston we have a solution! <img style="cursor: se-resize !important;" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Murff/Emoticons/Yeah.gif" class="emoticon bbc_img"> First off I ...

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Good point about the seat Chris. The seat does not look perfect but the pump does work when oriented with the CV axis upwards. It should be easy to clean the seat a bit though. My brain is seeing a ball glued onto the end of a #8 screw and a bit of lapping compound. If that doesn't work then I will ...

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