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by zoomkat
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:10 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 275 Generator Issues
Replies: 15
Views: 135

Re: 275 Generator Issues

"I appreciate the general cautionary comment, but my post was made hoping to get constructive experience on the mechanics of the 275 specifically." Your problem statement covers a number if "iffy" situations, but that being said, the issue at hand seems to concern a generator situation. About the on...
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:17 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 275 Generator Issues
Replies: 15
Views: 135

Re: 275 Generator Issues

"Adam pay no attention to our resident catastrophizer who offers no solutions to problems only reasons why you shouldn't fix it..."

What? The magical "pixie dust" Brillo® Pad in the generator did not fix it? ;)
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:20 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 275 Generator Issues
Replies: 15
Views: 135

Re: 275 Generator Issues

"Anyone have a solution here?"

You probably misassembled something in the fuel control valve assembly. You might look at the patent drawings for the lantern to see if you see an issue. Probably best to not take these lanterns apart unless there is a known issue.
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:00 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 243A burner screen
Replies: 6
Views: 103

Re: 243A burner screen

"I found a 243A that is missing a burner screen. Does the burner cap unscrew? Trying to figure out the best solution. Can I pop a new screen in it? Can I use the burner cap from a 242?" I've removed and replaced the burner screens in the 220 series lanterns, as I did not want to challenge the burner...
by zoomkat
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:16 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 413H: No Blue Flame until Secondary Burner is Lite
Replies: 4
Views: 99

Re: 413H: No Blue Flame until Secondary Burner is Lite

"my primary burner burns orange and smokes " Does the center of the burner get orange? If so, and you took the burner apart, then the burner rings may be misaligned. If it is just smoky yellow flames, then you have a rich condition with several possible causes. How much of the stove did you take apa...
by zoomkat
Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:12 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: OT Something's wrong here....
Replies: 31
Views: 573

Re: OT Something's wrong here....

"No matter what you do with the bezel, the red part of needle on right compass always points...south."

Maybe it is a political trinket.
by zoomkat
Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:00 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: OT Something's wrong here....
Replies: 31
Views: 573

Re: OT Something's wrong here....

Check to see if the bezel rotates on at least one of them, probably the one on the right.
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:20 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Generator basics
Replies: 4
Views: 129

Re: Generator basics

"Thanks guys. I was just curious seems they are only burned on the upper 3rd like the bottom 2/3 is not burned. Kind of like boiling water in a paper cup it only burns the cup above the water." Lots of opinions, but I think the fiber tube filters/traps materials in the fuel that are not as volatile ...
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 413G Campstove
Replies: 10
Views: 190

Re: 413G Campstove

Make sure you have the tank pumped up good and tight, and keep the lighting lever up until the generator is good and hot, then turn it down. Then pump the tank back up as pressure decreases fairly quickly during starting with the starting lever up.
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 295 powerhouse leaking up from generator area
Replies: 6
Views: 102

Re: 295 powerhouse leaking up from generator area

"I took generator back off and tightened it all down again and this time saw fuel bubbling up from the nut area." Becareful the generator is not getting cocked while you are tightening it down. As you are turning the generator nut down, you might pull up a little on the generator and maybe giggle it...
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:38 am
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: OT: advice on a better mouse trap
Replies: 26
Views: 261

Re: OT: advice on a better mouse trap

"We have tried what we know, most of what the internet knows, but what have you all had luck with?" You probably need to concentrate on how they gain entry to the house and fix that up. Once they get in and have a food source, they will nest and multiply. Do you have any pet food out, or other scrap...
by zoomkat
Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:43 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 237 Check Valve
Replies: 1
Views: 61

Re: 237 Check Valve

"The only thing I'm left with other than these models just lose pressure faster than say a 200a is that it might be a sticking check valve." That should be easy to check. Pump the tank up, close the needle valve, remove the pump cover and pump plunger, put some fluid, like fuel, in the pump tube and...
by zoomkat
Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:27 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Generator Rehab
Replies: 5
Views: 172

Re: Generator Rehab

"Came across a generator which has some slight thread damage, the cap wont “start” as the very first thread is folded a bit." From a practical stand point, carefully dressing away the side of the folded thread with a needle file might be the way to go. It would be the same as using a die to remove t...
by zoomkat
Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:17 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Perplexed
Replies: 21
Views: 467

Re: Perplexed

"As said above, the stove has had very little use. Burner rings are clean, assembled properly." Two trouble shooting take aways from that: 1) the stove probably was never taken apart or worked on by a previous owner, and was the way it came from the factory, and 2) you *assume* you assembled the bur...
by zoomkat
Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:58 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Perplexed
Replies: 21
Views: 467

Re: Perplexed

"Behavior starts at 1/4 turn of the valve. Even at a simmer setting it's running yellow." I wouldn't rely too much on valve knob position to evaluate things, I'd just monitor the burner flame for the time being. When you adjust the knob, the fuel controlling mechanism should be valve rod tip interfa...
by zoomkat
Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 220J troubleshoot
Replies: 19
Views: 278

Re: Coleman 220J troubleshoot

"I’ll have to figure a way to straighten the other generator tube. Maybe anneal it and drive it over a rod of the right diameter."

Well, if the bend is not bad, you probably can maybe just rotate it 90 deg. and try it again. A picture of the bend would be helpful.
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:34 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Perplexed
Replies: 21
Views: 467

Re: Perplexed

"At this point any ideas will be entertained."

When just using the primary burner, have you tried throttling back the fuel control valve to reduce the fuel flow to the burner?
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Check valve/air stem frustrations
Replies: 9
Views: 153

Re: Check valve/air stem frustrations

I think I would try "tinning" the needle valve tip to add somewhat of a "soft face" to it. Something to try before getting into the more complicated efforts.
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:23 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 220J troubleshoot
Replies: 19
Views: 278

Re: Coleman 220J troubleshoot

"It lit this time, less readily, but without setting it ablaze which was nice and I didn’t notice any fuel smell other than the initial light for a few seconds. still went a bit yellow after a few mins when it got warmed up fully but idk if that’s because of new mantles or not." After starting the l...
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:50 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 220J troubleshoot
Replies: 19
Views: 278

Re: Coleman 220J troubleshoot

"I do the 1/4 turn to light it. Last couple times I barely crack it open, maybe 1/8 of a turn and she’s ablaze instantly with blue flames in the deflector..."

Since you worked on the generator, make sure the generator nut is good and snug and not just finger tight.
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:48 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 220J troubleshoot
Replies: 19
Views: 278

Re: Coleman 220J troubleshoot

I'd say you maybe flooding the lantern. Do you open the fuel valve 1/4 turn open to start, or are you fully opening the valve from the start.
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:29 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 5438 - Orange Flame
Replies: 8
Views: 245

Re: Coleman 5438 - Orange Flame

"Thanks for the insight Zoomkat, sounds like there's nothing to worry about here. Cheers!" You probably could take the stove outside, spray the burner with some detergent, and then blast the burner assembly with a garden hose to wash away the salty material. Salty materials like bacon grease and oth...
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:48 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 5438 - Orange Flame
Replies: 8
Views: 245

Re: Coleman 5438 - Orange Flame

"What do you guys think?"

Looks like yellow sodium flames to me, which is typically something not to worry about.
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:09 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman M523 questions
Replies: 4
Views: 110

Re: Coleman M523 questions

The burners and burner rings look unusually red, but I don't have one to know what normal would be for this stove.
by zoomkat
Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 3 way convertable cooler
Replies: 4
Views: 100

Re: 3 way convertable cooler

"but I'm not sure how it works and all the pictures I have seen show no place to connect a propane bottle. "

The cooler in the parts picture appears to just be an "ice powered" cooler with no propane function.
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:55 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Trouble posting pics
Replies: 2
Views: 56

Re: Trouble posting pics

Have you looked at the FAQ section for various methods?
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:23 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Anybody replace a fuel filler neck?
Replies: 16
Views: 363

Re: Anybody replace a fuel filler neck?

" So I got frustrated and just smashed it. In the garbage it goes."

If the broken tank was of any value, I think I would have tried removing the filler neck from a junk tank and attempted to soft solder it onto the tank with the broken neck. Maybe something for in the future.
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:41 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Pricker rod crimper
Replies: 24
Views: 534

Re: Pricker rod crimper

"and each one of the prickers I've made (thousands) "

Now that has to be some kind of a record!
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Leaking Pressure!
Replies: 6
Views: 146

Re: Leaking Pressure!

" I believe that I should be able to rely on the C/V to hold pressure - almost indefinitely. Correct?" The ball in the check valve is not a positive pressure boundary for the tank. The needle valve is the positive pressure boundary. The ball in the check valve may leak a little and things are still ...
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:19 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Seems like a FA tube issue Update 10/12/21
Replies: 18
Views: 299

Re: Seems like a FA tube issue

" 10 minutes is all it will take and your lantern will operate like new. "

That works especially well if there is nothing really wrong to begin with. ;)
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:21 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Seems like a FA tube issue Update 10/12/21
Replies: 18
Views: 299

Re: Seems like a FA tube issue

I think there may be some general miss understanding of how the lanterns work on start up. The OP's lantern has a gap for fuel to flow between the fuel control rod tip and the pickup orifice, aka, he gets some fuel at the 1/4 turn open start, so there is fuel in the pickup tube. During the start up,...
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Seems like a FA tube issue Update 10/12/21
Replies: 18
Views: 299

Re: Seems like a FA tube issue

"I have to turn the valve stem wheel almost all the way open to get fuel to come out and then the lantern lights and burns well." This statement indicates that there is probably nothing really wrong with the F/A pickup assembly. If the fuel control passes just fuel when the fuel control valve is ful...
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:32 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Seems like a FA tube issue Update 10/12/21
Replies: 18
Views: 299

Re: Seems like a FA tube issue

"When I turn the valve stem wheel a quarter or even half a turn, I get air coming and maybe very little fuel. It will not light." That is the way the lantern is designed to work in the 1/4 turn open position. Make sure the tank is *full* and not just partly filled. The higher the tank level, the mor...
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:38 am
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Looking for a very thick polish
Replies: 3
Views: 187

Re: Looking for a very thick polish

I’ve been using my grinder with duel cloth wheels but getting the stick type polishing compound out of nooks of the covers is very time consuming."

Maybe the best of both worlds, you might use something like a WaterPic jet flosser/cleaner to blast stuff out of the small places.
by zoomkat
Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Empty shelves
Replies: 20
Views: 412

Re: Empty shelves

"I was in my local Walmart last Sunday and so many items were missing from the shelves. I couldn't buy my favorite soda or my alternate favorite." My "in town" Walmart stays wiped out on a lot of things (at least in the evening), and the out of town Walmart does a little better. A lot of the food is...
by zoomkat
Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:28 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Coleman 5438 - Orange Flame
Replies: 8
Views: 245

Re: Coleman 5438 - Orange Flame

A picture of the flame would be helpful. Lazy yellow flames usually indicate some type of air intake blockage. Crisp yellow flames might indicate something salty has been spilled on the burner causing a sodium flame. "Orange" flames might be something else.
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:51 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?
Replies: 16
Views: 300

Re: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?

Well, the problem statements have gone from "The 21 seems really small, yellow and aenimic as far as brightness/light throw..." to "It continues to lightly leak kero, after shutdown" and "It runs great and steady, otherwise". If the mantle is too small, a simple test with the cleaning lever and pric...
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?
Replies: 16
Views: 300

Re: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?

"It continues to lightly leak kero, after shutdown, up thru the generator, with valve closed and pricker up, but only when theres still pressure in the fount." If the leaking fuel is liquid sometime after shutdown, then there may be a problem with the fuel control valve. Shutting the lantern down wi...
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?
Replies: 16
Views: 300

Re: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?

"and I now know what the problem is"

And that would be...? Just curious to know what you are going to fix when you work on the lantern. Just saying.
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:14 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?
Replies: 16
Views: 300

Re: 237: Whats the largest mantle you can use?

"The 21 seems really small, yellow and aenimic as far as brightness/light throw..."

What makes you think a different mantle will fix that? Sounds like maybe the lantern has issues that are not the mantle. May be best to do some trouble shooting before ordering.
by zoomkat
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:14 am
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: 6 volt battery source?
Replies: 14
Views: 282

Re: 6 volt battery source?

I guess the main decision for the OP is weather the lantern is to look very original, or is to be more of a user. I'd go with the Amazon Rayovac 6v for original looks. The battery indicates it is alkaline, so it should last a while for display purposes. When the battery finally expires, then the bat...
by zoomkat
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:37 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: 288 heat shield...
Replies: 14
Views: 389

Re: 288 heat shield...

"I might remove the Stansport logo, if I can."

That is something that I always find interesting.
by zoomkat
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:18 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: 6 volt battery source?
Replies: 14
Views: 282

Re: 6 volt battery source?

I think in the past I have seen battery holders made to replace 6v batteries that were made to hold four C or D cells. Been a while, but may be worth looking for. https://www.amazon.com/American-Science-Surplus-6VADP-LANTERN/dp/B001DKTFE8/ref=asc_df_B001DKTFE8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=3432...
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:10 am
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: Putting 200A burner on 220 fount
Replies: 12
Views: 337

Re: Putting 200A burner on 220 fount

"Why could you not just cut the original 220 valve off flush with the top of the fount and then drill and tap for the 200A valve through the remains of the 220 valve ?" Not sure that would be practical, depending on how much of the 220 valve remains would still be in the bung and if there would be a...
by zoomkat
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Tilley AL 620--My most uniquest project yet! Now with light and heat!
Replies: 49
Views: 818

Re: Tilley AL 620--My most uniquest project yet! Now with light and heat!

"The orifice seems pretty large compared to what I'm used to. The pricker has no wire--see microphoto above--but is instead machined. It seems to work just fine and the lantern shuts off INSTANTLY with a POP when the valve is closed and the pricker up." You might see if it has any throttle capabilit...
by zoomkat
Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Tilley AL 620--My most uniquest project yet! Now with light and heat!
Replies: 49
Views: 818

Re: Tilley AL 620--My most uniquest project yet! Now with light and heat!

"I may have a hole in the mantle--hard to tell with the way it shaped up--or didn't. I think that could make for a pretty good release of un- or partially-burned kero." If you suspect a hole in the mantle might be an issue, then the lantern might be overdriven with fuel. The mantle itself should not...
by zoomkat
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:46 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Tilley AL 620--My most uniquest project yet! Now with light and heat!
Replies: 49
Views: 818

Re: Tilley AL 620--My most uniquest project yet! Now with light and heat!

"Unfortunately, even 'though we were outside, the danged thing stank so bad I had to shut it down. Where do I look for the source of the kero smell? No leaks that I can find, visually or with the finger-swipe and sniff test." A typical point where fuel leaks unnoticed is at the generator/valve stem ...
by zoomkat
Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: OCP sold recently...and Frank just got back in a year ago.
Replies: 36
Views: 931

Re: OCP sold recently...and Frank just got back in a year ago.

" The only problem we will have is with the slugs at the PO. They seem to have taken the so called "pandemic" as a license to drag their feet" Is it "slugs" or the singular "slug"? About a year ago somebody ordered automatic sorting machines scrapped (maybe they weren't working?) and other changes, ...
by zoomkat
Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:05 pm
Forum: Just Bull
Topic: Battery geeks--6V lantern batt to 18650 adapter?
Replies: 10
Views: 172

Re: Battery geeks--6V lantern batt to 18650 adapter?

"I can brew one up myself,..."

If you are making a battery bank out of the 18650 batteries, then you might consider how you will charge the bank. I think the 18650 batteries need special charging circuits to make sure the batteries get balanced charging to prevent issues.
by zoomkat
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: Technical Assistance
Topic: How do the lantern generators work?
Replies: 5
Views: 212

Re: How do the lantern generators work?

Short and sweet, you will get a variety of *opinions* on the functions, but I have not seen any details directly from Coleman. You can read the Coleman patents for possibly some Coleman info, but the rest is pretty much what people think the functions are. YMMV