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StanDahl

To help narrow it down, if it has the large Coleman sunrise stamp on the side of the fount, it's 1938. If not, 1935. I have seen a couple with that date, but I didn't make note of the presence or absence of a stamp. One definitely has a 242B collar, but I didn't see a photo of the fount stamp. I hav...

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I got some pretty bad flash rusting with 25% HCl toilet bowl cleaner when that craze hit the CCF about 9 years ago. I don't remember if it was diluted or not. I prefer citric, but even better, Evaporust (I love that stuff, it's worth the price to me.)

StanDahl

Hello, Dean?

Cosmetically, this is great, in reality, I'm not qualified to tell, but I have my suspicions.
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StanDahl

It could be an earlier base plate that got buried and then found, or a genuine 6/72 fount that was damaged in production and pulled, repainted and put back on the line months later. A former Coleman employee from that time period says that happened when lanterns were dropped, or the paint job wasn't...

StanDahl

This isn't as much fun, but you can download a light meter app on your smart phone, check the Apple Store (iPhone) or Google Play (Android). Lot's of them are called "Lux ____" something or other.

StanDahl

If that's all original (except the generator), I'd say that's a 427 dated from May to August 1927. After August, the smooth winged fuel cap generally began being used, although the dates could vary on that. This lantern would originally have had a Q99 generator, the R55 came along a few years later,...

StanDahl

Nice stove -I would love to find one of those! It looks like a Coleman Model 398_ "Bottle Gas Range" from the early to mid '40's. Eventually I'd like to build a Standy trailer and incorporate one of those.

StanDahl

Very cool range - so deluxe! My 945 range (1934) has the dial-type carburetor valves on top of the fuel tank (like yours), but not the smaller valves on the side of those big valves. What do those do? 945 Fuel Tank copy.JPG In 1936, the dial-type carburetor valves were only used on the deluxe 950A a...

StanDahl

I often see very desirable things offered "for trade only", and I see frustrated collectors who'd love to have it but have nothing worth trading for it and they feel excluded from the opportunity to get that rare item. I think that's the basis of this complaint. Whenever I see **** post a WTT involv...

StanDahl

With the European style check valve that uses a rubber or cork pip, I've poured Coleman fuel into the pump tube to check for air bubbles. You could do this with a regular cv too, either with or without the air stem installed. Without checks the sealing ability of the ball bearing, with checks everyt...

StanDahl

That's a nice one. Mine looks just about as good, but is stress cracked all around.

StanDahl

@Steve - I know that guy, and you've probably met him at D&D's. I've bought a bunch of stuff from him over the years. His prices are usually very reasonable, but he seems to know what he's got there.

StanDahl

That looks great! I wasn't sure if you had a short hose or one of the (harder to find) longer ones. For some reason I pictured it on a propane "tree" attached to a 20lb tank, which would be pretty awkward with the short hose. The 1lb tank makes a lot more sense.

StanDahl

I've got at least a dozen stands, and I've used them all at once too. I made some canvas cases for some of them so they stow away in a more friendly manner. I found this stand this summer: 20210114_204637 copy.jpg Someone stretched it by adding aluminum angle pieces, making it about 6" taller. It's ...

StanDahl

Sears had a steel stove stand from 1958-61, this was when they were selling JC Higgins stoves made by Thermos. In 1962 and after it was aluminum. The catalog pictures all look like a Coleman, but they may have the slot in the lower leg for the sliding supports, it doesn't say. They used the same cat...

StanDahl

That is amazing - I just sat and stared at it! I can't believe all the stuff and all of the thought you put into that, and the artwork too! Really cool!

StanDahl

What intrigues me is how Lhoff and his wife have 202's that correspond to their birth years (1954-63), and they have a 1952 mil-spec that corresponds to dad's birth year. That sounds like a story in itself right there

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StanDahl

If it turns out it was printed on the back of a flattened Chutney can though, that won't be a good sign.

StanDahl

Where did computer fonts come from exactly?? Many of them came from existing print fonts. Don't give up yet.

StanDahl

That's a beauty! The paperwork would agree with 1/65. The 413G stove began in late 1964, and the diamond logo on the coolers ended in mid 1965.

StanDahl

No, only 208. 67 are single burners, 34 are 3-burners. A whole bunch of those suitcase stoves are going to be looking for new homes one of these days.

StanDahl

I had 86 stoves a while back!

StanDahl

[/quote]Unless I’m wrong again the R55 is the Roto generator.[/quote] I shouldn't be allowed to say anything else on this thread, but yes you are right. There's also the Roto-Type Burner that is the burner with the built-in tip cleaner, as opposed to the older match-lighting burners with the R-55 do...

StanDahl

Dang it. Disregard all that dung I flung up above. Reading comprehension fail.

StanDahl

October, November and December are usually a two digit numbers on the fount stamps during that time period, at least on the 220B's, 243A's and 242B's. So if they used a single digit month stamp year round, Nov. and Dec. would be the same as Jan. and Feb. So, this is interesting. edit: I deleted a bu...

StanDahl

As they say in the news biz: "If it bleeds, it leads!"

StanDahl

. . I had a couple of early 242A (non-slotted) vents in terrible condition that I've been sitting on for many years. I spoke with Jeff at the 2012 ICCC convention and he told me that the fall is the best time of year to send in vents. Since then, every fall I've intended to ship them, then procrasti...

StanDahl

I would only recommend sending in the more desirable vents to IPE for refinishing, because at $44.50 each (approximately $50 with shipping), you could replace that vent much more cheaply with another in better condition.

StanDahl

A basic U.S. Coleman funnel timeline goes like this (I've posted this before, but I can't find it): #0 funnels: 1928-36 - Schuyler patent/Coleman, copper plated steel, straight sides with sharply angled bottom 1937-40 - Solid copper, straight sides with rounded bottom 1941-45 - Solid copper, "crimpe...

StanDahl

1958-65, beginning with coolers and the camp oven. The lantern boxes didn't get a redesign until about 1968 and kept the diamond logo even though by that point none of the products featured that emblem.

StanDahl

I don't know of a range model 385, maybe it's a mis-reading or mis-typing of the number?

StanDahl

The tank looks to be the best part of the stove, nicer than the rest for sure. Maybe the original tank met the same fate as the lower half of the 426B. FWIW, the 417B was made from 1938-42.

StanDahl

That second address line has been a thing for a number of years now. According to our webmaster Ian, there doesn't seem to be a bypass around it. Current members who renew before Dec. 31st are eligible for a drawing for a special prize donated by Coleman - see the President's Message in the Septembe...

StanDahl

All of the 417B's I've seen have a brown tank. It's probably a swap with another stove, but it if is an odd factory original, it is probably a very early one 417B and it should have a Solodur tank. It's hard to tell Solodur from steel without scratching the paint. Solodur would be shiny silver, stee...

StanDahl

On the 10/46 242C's I've noted two with "Coleman" large 'straight line', one with the "Coleman" small, like the sunrise version but without the sunrise and one regular sunrise globe, possibly a replacement.

StanDahl

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I found one dated 10/76. It was nearly bare, so I had to put an NOS valve and generator on it and I found a used fuel cap for it. It's got a scrape near the fuel cap that has gotten rusty, but you should be able to clean that up. $20 + shipping

StanDahl

Well that sounds like it should fit just right then, I'll order one - thanks!

StanDahl

FWIW, I've noted 9/47 242C's in both green and nickel, but I agree, that seems to be the transition date. I haven't bothered to look at the collar plating though.

StanDahl

Oh - that's great! I see the generator length is 4 3/4" long, but does that include the tapered part at the base? If so, I wonder if it would come up short for my lantern. The space between the manifold opening and the base where the generator screws in is 4 5/8", and I don't know how far the tapere...

StanDahl

What's the date on the bottom of your stove? I've probably got a spare red 425E tank that might be close to that date that I can sell you.

StanDahl

We had a power outage during Thanksgiving dinner (mid-afternoon). The food was already done, but I had to make coffee on an old AGM campstove. It took a while, I've got 150 stoves but can't remember which ones have fuel at any given moment.

StanDahl

Oh dang, that reminds me - for the last 5 years I've been going to ask Dean to make a generator like that for my Yale arc lantern!

StanDahl

Bob is probably correct on that, Coleman had an odd dating system in the 60's and early 70's.

StanDahl

Stove pumps never had the tiny screws, just the wire clip. That's the early machined version that was on most of the stoves from about 1938 up to the late 40's that didn't have a screw-on pump (#1, 2/9C/D/E/F, 3F, 3H) or a "keyhole" pump cap (2G/9G, 2H/9H, 6B, 6F). Again, these stoves did not have t...

StanDahl

I just refreshed a new-to-me newer style #3 that is missing its lid and wind baffles. I need to either make a new lid or just sell it to someone else, since I've already got another with the lid. After a clean-up, it lit right up, and like yours, it's a great runner.

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StanDahl

You shouldn't use anything stronger than a nylon scrubby with cast iron. The stainless wire scrubby will scrape the seasoning right off and expose bare metal. My wife went at a couple of my cast iron pans with a stainless steel scrubby a while back and when I found them the next day they were rusty....

StanDahl

I didn't feel like going through all the pages to see if this was posted, but for some reason it came up in my YouTube feed the other day - a Tilley in "Age of Consent" from 1969, starring Helena Bonham Carter and Johnny Depp:

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StanDahl

I found myself the owner of triplets way back when also...same date too (that post is probably long gone):

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StanDahl

I've seen a couple of 206's with that date - good luck with that! Other than that, it's the 220K or a number of stove models - 400 Peak1, 425E, 5400 or 5418 propane.

StanDahl

I've seen a couple of 206's with that date - good luck with that! Other than that, it's the 220K or a number of stove models - 400 Peak1, 425E, 5400 or 5418 propane.

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