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StanDahl

That's a nice one! But it reminds me that I've got a fan in a box that has been in the family since at least the '60's. I pull it out every couple of years and put it back again. I don't remember what went wrong. Time to pull it out again?

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StanDahl

I haven't spotted a 5/66 Sears lantern, but I have seen a 72302 Sears stove with that date (413 size two burner). I've also noted a 200A, 220/228F, 237, 502 and 413G with that date.

StanDahl

I remember very early in one morning watching one of the lift-offs in 1969. I was 6 or 7 years old. They interviewed a man who was 100 years old and he thought it was all being fabricated. Generally the origin of the faked moon landings movement has been attributed to a 1976 book by Bill Kaysing, bu...

StanDahl

Ideally natural gas is pure methane (CH4) and under ideal conditions it breaks down into CO2 and H2O. (Gasoline is supposed to do the same thing, but we know how that goes.) In reality, it is well known that unburned natural gas and its combustion components are known to contain a number of toxic co...

StanDahl

I've never seen one with that date, but I haven't seen them all...I've noted a number of 11/67's though (Ted Williams).

StanDahl

I agree - if it has bail holes it's an AGM 3470:

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I've got to clean that lantern up one of these days...

StanDahl

I may have seen a 288A dated 11/88, but I'm not positive. I have seen a 508 dated 6/87. That's all, but I haven't seen them all.

StanDahl

I don't normally run propane lanterns while camping, but since there was already a propane source for the Guide stove (that I don't have to run over and light every time someone wants something heated), I brought this 2500 Northstar (one of my son's many birthday lanterns) to a family campout, here'...

StanDahl

Bronze tank 413E: 1954 - mid 57; red tank mid 1958 - 61. Red tank with 3 leg slots: 1960 (or so...maybe '59 also?). Red tank with red valve: 1961. All are "model years" beginning and ending halfway through the year.

StanDahl

That's also my wife's birthday month and I've never found a 200A. I have seen 220/228F's, 236 CA and 237 U.S. as well as a few stove models - 413G and 426D and Sears 476.74970 two-burner blue/yellow stove.

StanDahl

I am wondering what was made in September of 1966. Lots of things...that's my sister's birthday month and I've got a 413G stove, a 228F, a blue/black single-mantle Sears lantern, a 511A700 catalytic heater, and a 426D stove. All but one of these were things I came across locally. I've also seen a 2...

StanDahl

6/56: U.S. 500A stove and there's a Canadian lantern, I forget which one.

StanDahl

I haven't seen any lanterns, but I own a 5/74 413G (case dated 3/74 and tank dated 5/74). I'm not opposed to selling it.
I don't own any of these, but I've seen a 5/75 502 and 425E. I've also noted an 8/76 426E. I've seen a clamshell case dated 10/77.

StanDahl

Blew a heater core hose fitting out by the VLA on the way home. After sorting that out with the help of a passer by, I decided to have some more fun and lost my air con right outside Sierra Blanca, Texas. Got home a little after midnight. Still worth it! Had a fantastic time guys! Hope everyone els...

StanDahl

Here's a 1951 AGM mil-spec funnel - it's the only view I have as it's still taped to the fount.

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StanDahl

In case you don't find one, I needed one and made one from a damaged Coleman pot I found at a yard sale.

StanDahl

This is a regular 418A photo I stole from the internet somewhere...maybe here?

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If this is the one, I can't figure out how they'd ever get lost.

StanDahl

You're welcome, I have also seen one on a 418 - @smarti posted it. I can't see details from his photo though. I would think that the basic "F 194" only would be a good generic version, that one seems to be found on most models.

StanDahl

9F and 9H have them. Here's the 9F: 9F After4 copy 2.JPG My 9H only has the remnant of one, but I've seen one like the one above, but dated 6-35 (which is early for a 9H) Here's my 6F (early brown version) cleaned up: 6F Everdur label clean copy.jpg Here's a later 6F from a green painted stove: 6Ff....

StanDahl

I enjoy the energy cost savings from the LEDs, but I definitely prefer the light from an incandescent. I'm also not convinced on the longevity of LEDs as they are advertised. In my workshop I replaced all of the 4-ft fluorescence with LEDs, but they seem to flicker and crap out after about 6 months...

StanDahl

LED's, definitely. I even switched nearly entirely to compact fluorescent back when that didn't make sense financially, but some of those expensive early bulbs are still working. I kind of like the slow start on some CFLs where I can ease into the light when I turn them on in the middle of the night...

StanDahl

Yesterday my daughter announced that a tree branch had just fallen in the backyard. I think she was being a bit dramatic: 20230821_092435.jpg Where I am in north Orange County it did rain for about 12 hours straight, but not very hard. Enough that the dang dogs refused to go out into the yard to tak...

StanDahl

Could also be a 2B, what type of pump does it have? Pinned - 2H; regular - 2B (unless it's been changed at some point).

StanDahl

426 with mouse nest:

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Someone wanted a larger stove, so they made one bigger:

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Possibly a 415C?

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StanDahl

This may be a decent match:

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@Scouterjan has done some work with the brown stoves, maybe he remembers what he used. I seem to remember something about a mahogany brown or some such color.

StanDahl

1 1/2" x 3 1/2"

StanDahl

They rarely survive, but a Sept. 1923 (first year of production) Coleman parts list shows part #CS57 Oven Flame Spreader for 20¢. I've had four No. 1 stoves and none of them had either the flame spreader or the oven grate. Only one of my three No. 2's has the grate and two of them have the flame spr...

StanDahl

I forgot to measure the thickness, but it's probably less than 1/16", yet very rigid. Corners are clipped, not folded.

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StanDahl

Nice! I've got one stress cracked and one not:

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StanDahl

Ping pong by the light of a 236 and Thermos mil-spec:

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StanDahl

lynn225 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:01 pm If you choose to repaint that burnt area, you can make a sheet metal heat shield like this one to prevent future paint burns.

Ooh - I'm going to steal that idea - I like it!

StanDahl

You can sand it and repaint it using Rustoleum Gloss Hunter Green. ...but most wouldn't bother, just use it as it is - it should be a great stove and it actually seems to be in excellent condition overall. You'll just re-burn the front edge again when you use a large pan on high heat anyway. Many p...

StanDahl

I have access to a 1944 document from Coleman that states that the price changes from the 242B to 242C and 220BX to 220C (and also 237B to 237C?!?) had been approved by the O.P.A. (Office of Price Administration) despite a lack of substantial differences between newer and older models. O.P.A. had wa...

StanDahl

Personally, I would leave it alone. That one is not common, and that paper label is unique to the mid-30's time period and it seems that half of the labels on stoves of that era are mostly gone by now. You could try to get the rust in check if you think you need to, but in MT, humidity probably isn'...

StanDahl

I wondered if that might be a 242 dated 9/32 or maybe a B dated 2/39 but stamped backwards (unlikely without the side stamp). The lack of a side fount stamp makes me think 242, 242A or early B. There's no photo of the top of the frame.

StanDahl

I got a big 3-burner propane Guide stove for when the extended family camps, that way I don't have to run over every time someone wants to heat something. I may have been a teacher for 35 years, but I don't have patience with adults who aren't motivated to learn as long as they know I'm going to be ...

StanDahl

It's a 3H. [https://intlccc.net/information/camp-stoves/stove-field-guide-2/] A 413B would have "truncated" wind baffles, yours are straight all the way up. The other difference is the fuel tank - if it doesn't attract a magnet (Everdur) = 3H, if it does attract a magnet (Solodur) = 413B. Of course,...

StanDahl

There are some fairly recent Coleman propane stoves that are red.

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Otherwise, it's more than likely a re-paint.

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StanDahl

Or here, for a more comprehensive look at dates in general: https://intlccc.net/information/modelye ... /by-model/
By the way - 1936-37. Probably earlier with nickel-plated legs, later with green painted legs.

StanDahl

They seem to have made a run of these 3 models in Nov. 1982, 3/84, 6/84, 9/84, 1/85, 2/85, 4/85 and then just the CL2 in 6, 10 & 12/85...but these are just my observations, not Coleman records. I may have missed some too, especially in the later 1985 notes. Keep in mind we're also basing this on pro...

StanDahl

That's a 9G. The 9A has cast iron "slotted" ("Hi-Power Wind-Proof") burners and a regular pump/cv. When in doubt, use this handy Field Guide: https://intlccc.net/information/camp-st ... d-guide-2/

StanDahl

3/84 seems to be a fairly common date on these...all three of these are dated 3/84:

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StanDahl

flywheel73 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:08 am That's a great stove. It reminds me of my 825 Kitchen Kook.

That's very cool! Is it an 825 or 852? I don't see an 825 in my parts catalogs, only the 852 and the illustration looks very similar. It looks to be 1927-28.

StanDahl

Do we know what CLX even stands for? In the 1984 catalog, the liquid fueled lantern line is referred to as "New: The Ultimate Lantern". "Coleman Lantern" is somewhat emphasized in the description, but there are no other clues. In 1985, The CLX is described as having "Extra light output". So I'd say...

StanDahl

Actually, it's not all in The Book, the late 413B isn't, the late Gypsy isn't, and many hot plates aren't (not enough room). With the 425, the brown tank was only in the first year of production (maybe only the first part of the first year) since "bronze" is the only color mentioned in the catalogs....

StanDahl

That's kind of cool - if you've got a rotted out tank, make it into a stand, get a hollow-wire type setup.

StanDahl

Pedantic summary plus some others: 2E/9E, but it was integrated with the burner assembly 10 Gypsy - late variant, also integrated with burner assembly 370A&B Hot Plates (425 size) 417B, it was a very dark brown - small (425 size) tank 413B - late, probably post-war variation with a rectangular fille...

StanDahl

The grates of the Kitchenkook 1700 look just like what's shown in the brochure illustration I posted above, but the grates on Greg's 1704 look just like those on other Kitchenkook models, like the earlier (1937) 1600 and 1650 as well as a model 922 hot plate and many others in parts catalogs. Screen...

StanDahl

That will be a fun project! I see a model 1700 two burner in a 1948 Stoeger catalog, so it could be from somewhere around that time period...I don't have any AGM catalog data though.

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