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Dmacp

Most old AGM lanterns in general are cracked. Most but not all. for some funny inexplicable reason some AGM lanterns DO NOT CRACK. Doesn't mean I trust them-I don't, but over the years I have replaced many AGM founts with crack free originals. And only one or two cracked after I replaced (and repla...

Dmacp

that doesn't even look like an AGM. It's a bummer when a Coleman cracks like that.

Dmacp

I used to run a 327. I could never afford a 427. But after I retired I dropped in a 427 and have never looked back.

Dmacp

post some pictures!

Dmacp

yes Randy, I'd be interested.

Dmacp

so, the blue and green have dye mixed in with the raw material that makes the glass. JAFE used a proprietary ion absorption method that stained the glass really only one color. Starts out yellow and darkens over exposure time to red. And it is only one kind of glass-borosilicate glass and it is in i...

Dmacp

1/4-32. Same thread as a Coleman Check valve stem. They were closed on top. and had an asbestos faced aluminum washer under them. sorry I don't have any spares as I am still looking for them too.

Dmacp

https://petrowiki.spe.org/Gas_to_methan ... %20alcohol.

Dmacp

That float plane is awesome!

That float plane was restored at Chino airport, Chino, California and I worked on it.

Dmacp

it shouldn't smell. it's leaking mixture out of somewhere. maybe where the burner caps screw on. Mine leaked there.

Dmacp

tried sending you this as a pm and it would not attach so I'll just post it here

Lantern Glass Reference_04 (3).pdf

Dmacp

I'm good with Coleman's instructions for the use of the 007 wire pick. but I have to wonder, since the tip has been removed from the generator body, what difference would it make which end you inserted the pick into? Maybe to preserve the diameter where the gas exits?

Dmacp

well I meant the part number corresponded to the wire diameter but I guess your version is more interesting. considerably.

Dmacp

so probably no coincidence that the part number is 007?

Dmacp

These are euro prickers. These are pretty husky (.6 mm) but they came in several sizes. They are used mainly for the rapid preheater.
They would be the euro equivalent, well sort of, of part 007 on Toby's attachment.

Dmacp

which AGM globes do you need Colin?

I uploaded a screenshot of my spreadsheet showing the models i hope to include.
BTW, I can send a copy of the spreadsheet as it stands - I'll just need an email address

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well I'll pm you my address. I don't see any AGM lanterns on your spreadsheet
Dan

Dmacp

interesting. I have an August 1945 242C. It has a rather small side stamp, (unusually small) including "made in USA". some brass parts too, but steel gland (valve) nut. It is marked "242C" on the collar.

Dmacp

which AGM globes do you need Colin?

Dmacp

well Greg maybe you should restore it!
My 12-51 only has a black frame.

Dmacp

that 12-51 is a pretty desirable piece. It has blackband parts on it. Also has the bug cap over the air tube.
I've been told that there was a 12-51 blackband as well. My earliest one was a 2-52.

Dmacp

Has anyone here ever seen a Canadian generator marked "T66G"? I've heard they made them but have never seen one. If you have one please post a picture?

Dmacp

ours are always in the middle of a heat spell

we had three in one day last week. Once while I was in the shower at night.

Dmacp

Coleman sold a self-tapping 4-40 screw as a replacement for the 4-36. The 4-36 was also used on the cast 242 pump caps.
I posted a thread chart here long ago.

Dmacp

well I had one of those plated and all fixed up. I was quite proud of it then it cracked right through the sun rays on the logo. Now it's a candidate for the same.

Dmacp

That's pretty hot. How close are the frame members to the mantle on these lanterns?

They are the exact same distance as the ones on steel frames that do not glow.

Dmacp

the air tube is nickel plated. The other parts are plain brass. The band and frame are painted. My black band is glossy black, very thin high solids paint. The frame is flat or semi-gloss black. I do not think it is gun blued. The frame hold down nut is plated silver.

Dmacp

that is a common problem with those frames. The stainless they were using back then wasn't so good. a good steel frame would actually be an upgrade. I might get some flack for saying this, but the repro frames do not burn as well as a stock frame. IMHO it is the bend(s) in the air tube. I don't thin...

Dmacp

I have a 53 he thinks is a black band even though it does not have the black band collar.

I have two 4-53 lanterns; one is a black band, and the other is a silver band. There is a period of several months in 1953 where they had both. Same lantern other than the color. Steel bands on both.

Dmacp

I wish I could get 93 octane super in California. Or ethanol free gasoline. some places (Sinclair) sell 100 octane unleaded but it is $10 a gallon and higher. Heck, might be $20 a gallon now.

Dmacp

Looks like the tape absorbed moisture over the years. That appears to be rust.

Dmacp

ground squirrels here. serious diggers. Right under my foundation. Cute little boogers. Friendly too when they are babies. but something's got to give.

Dmacp

Stan Ridgeway. wonder what he is doing these days. Wall of Voo Doo. And I'm old enough to remember XERB-the original Mexican Radio. 100,000 watts and the wolfman. Later became 69 Extra Gold.

Dmacp

I have a bottle here and I think it works great

Dmacp

running a lantern with the pricker wire partially plugging the orifice will cause it to clog faster.

Dmacp

I found out MEK dissolves Caswell's.

Dmacp

being Prez is usually the last step before disappearing. Hopefully not Murff. How's Brent doing these days?

Dmacp

When they had the opportunity the US should have switched to the metric system. So much simpler.

It's not really, if you've worked in a machine shop and learned the US system, with drills and taps all based on the 64ths system but in thousandths of an inch.

Dmacp

mini mag lights are cute but sure don't last.

Dmacp

With a petromax the mixture velocity slows down and the flame creeps up into the burner tube. A screen is mandatory but you sort of do want the lantern to burn strong. I'd lay that U tube on a brick and heat it with a torch to be certain it is not cracked. those parts are castings. Or just swap it f...

Dmacp

Ken and Moses- Those perkers can be had on ebay for a song. You can get vintage ones that are new, unused and unchipped. But be sure you get the basket, diffuser plate and stem (pump assembly) complete because they were made to fit the individual pot and don't always interchange. Also the squared ha...

Dmacp

I use porcelain stove top perkers on a 500 speedmaster. My sister, who uses a Keurig, says it is the best coffee she's ever had.
Those green bubbles are uranium glass. (Vaseline glass)

Dmacp

I think most Colemans used Pyrex, which was trademarked by Dow Corning. AGM et al used glass made by McKee Glasbake or MacBeth Evans and could not use the word "Pyrex". The Coleman globes I posted may have been made by someone other than Dow Corning. I say that because those globes were concurrent w...

Dmacp

that is an almost common occurrence with Petromax type lanterns. it makes a peculiar noise which is all the warning you get before things start to melt.

Dmacp

Gary?
No way. How the heck are you? Good to hear from you.

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Dmacp

The Hirohata Merc. First place I heard the word "seafoam".

Dmacp

Someone mentioned the 2/51 date is common but around here it’s the first pre 1955 200 I’ve stumbled across. For me it seems 2/58 is the common date.

I'd agree with you and add 4-52. I've had two of those and I get all the common ones.

Dmacp

I have a 2-51 as well. seem pretty common.

Dmacp

Hi Erwin-
Authoritarianism is big on social media these days.
VBW
Dan

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