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Find something that is almost like a fork to pull up on the valve while turning it. Or,put valve in vise and pull while turning.

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Or it stripped the threads off of the valve or the bung and its still locked in by an upper thread. I've had that happen years ago on a 200 fount. Had it happen on other brass fittings as well.

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RobbyJoe wrote: Hardy har-har-har! Glad I didn't ask how to "score" one!

Probably right with that one.

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<blockquote>Heck wrote: [QUOTE=Dmacp]They are kind of shy. Pick them up on time, dress nicely and don't try to kiss them on the first date. Get them home by midnight. Also vacuum out your car to make a good first impression:-)</blockquote> Dang it! You stole my thunder! ...

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I plan on doing a 520 & 523 full video in the coming weeks.

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A fluted clear one.

http://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/i-didnt-notice-until-later-7747728?pid=1289468974

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Clayton it's a looooooooooooooong story. The autoclave was uncovered in Greece several years ago. Along with the autoclave there was also some Coleman 500 speedmaster stove that had been modified by the Greek military by adding a pressure gauge. Seen here. <a href="http://s297.photobucket...

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deanofid wrote: I name it Alberto.

Lol. Killing me Dean.

AGM gens

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Welcome to the CCF!!!!! Yep those are cool. Coleman made what you have with the exception of the wind guard. Coleman did not make the autoclave. <a href="http://s297.photobucket.com/user/kellyblues/media/IMG_20150829_084507466.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img class...

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<blockquote>joemiller1059 wrote: All I know is... "Brute force and stupidity do not work"!</blockquote> " There is something to be said for brute force. - It is usually followed by brute stupidity" Garfield the cat <img al...

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I was speaking in general, Dean. I should wait until I have the time to describe things in great detail as you did before I post sometimes. And sometimes I lack the ability of getting it out of my head in a way that normal people understand. Lol. I'm Abby somebody much of the time. Great explanation...

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<blockquote>Trout wrote: The only one I have is a 1/55 and it has a green knob. Sometimes it's hard to tell unless you shine a flashlight on it. I didn't buy it new so who knows what it's history is and what parts got changed through the years. There are a lot of 1/55's out the...

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<blockquote>ehodges wrote: I thought brazing was using brass to weld or solder brass!?</blockquote> Aluminum , cast iron , steel, pot metal.. Braze is basically another word for gas weld. Back when coat hangers were made out of material that made good brazing rod is when my dad...

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joemiller1059 wrote: Does a 202 have a brown or black valve wheel? The one I just FFR'd had a crispy one and I can't tell.

Black

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Jan I don't have one of those stoves anymore but I'm somewhat familiar with what your looking for. I believe they used what's considered now to be an odd ball thread though it was fairly common of the time. Sewing machines have tons of odd ball stuff like that. That being said I bought out the local...

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<blockquote>Pete McNulty wrote: Scouterjan, I agree but brazing and Caswell product W650 mentioned may make it functional.</blockquote> Hello Pete and welcome, Listen to the experience here and save yourself some frustration and maybe burning your house down. That AGM foun...

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<blockquote>deanofid wrote: [QUOTE=kellyblues]I left a little bit in one of the cans for a memory whiff every now and then.l</blockquote>Closet naphtha huffer. Now out of the closet. <img alt="[wink]" src="//cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" align="absmiddle" bo...

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<blockquote>StanDahl wrote: [QUOTE=mcdugal2]I've got to replace the o-ring on mine....</blockquote>What!?! It's way more exciting to light a stove and suddenly have flames come out the holes for the control knobs!</blockquote> Just so everyone knows, John made a funny. Ho...

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<blockquote>Eccentric Blockhead wrote: I found a can of CF in the garage that was half-ful (1980s design). The garage is detached from house, and the can was rusty on the outside. The fuel inside was pristine and worked fine. </blockquote> Couple of years ago I snagged 2 cans...

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<blockquote>JimDouglasJr wrote: Eh, I've used partial cans that were 35+ years old. Also partial founts that probably had 20-40 year old fuel in them. No problem. There are next to no additives. It's all the additives in automobile gasoline that make it go bad.</blockquot...

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Clayton good of you to offer your services out to folks. I've always done my own tips and such but lack the time to do it for other people. Very well done young man. With this I expect to see a bunch of the GPA'S I sent you making light again.<img src="//cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/...

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hammer_off wrote: It is not a Roto generator.

Steve it takes the other iron gen I had sitting on the table at the GL gathering. I have roughly 110-120 of them. Long story,don't ask. Lol

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Nice score for sure. Another was to ID the "B' is the check valve. Most of the B's and BX's have the " barrel" style like the milspecks have as seen on the far right in the pictures below.. If you can get a good pic down the pump bore they are easy to ID. <a href="http://s297.photobucket...

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<blockquote>lighthead wrote: And I am the guy who purchased this lantern. My name is Gerhard. One comment made in the thread by Scouter_Angus was that this lantern was from the 60's, and that someone would have re-plated the vent in nickel. The l...

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There is a company that will repair a rare globe just so you guys know. I would have to look them up but they've done several for members here.

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http://www.americanoutboard.com/shop/evgas/evgas2.htm

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If you make sure you get he original style good and tight it will work fine. I've removed and reinstalled 100's of them. The one in the middle is what you will get as a replacement if you order a CV from mike for that lantern. Either one works fine. Just make sure the CV is in good and tight. Some m...

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Eccentric Blockhead wrote: Which one of those goes in a '58 220E?

The one in the middle is the new style replacement. The one in that 220E will look like the one on the left. The one on the right is from around 220B and milspecks of many years.

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I posted these years ago for ppl to see the difference. Couldn't find it in the archives though. <a href="http://s297.photobucket.com/user/kellyblues/media/CV/Picture001.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img class="bbc_img" src="http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/kellyblues/...

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Dan,thank you for showing this. That shows the very thing I'm talking about. It doesn't have to be directly over a crack. Pressure will capitalize on every opportunity it gets. It will follow every fisher ,split, crevis and so on. Several years ago we had a low pressure fuel oil line leak. The secti...

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Okie dokie. Keep us posted! And I didn't intend to insult your knowledge or skill ability. I hope I've not offended you.

Think it trough a couple times before you do it. It helps.

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If you still have the tip off. Using a small wire form a small hook on one end and fish it out the flared end of the tube. If you have any electrical wire a stand from it will work nicely. Once the packing is removed clear the tube of any obstructions. You should be able to blow through it very easi...

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<blockquote>Chucker wrote: I've removed and replaced milspec gen tips several times with the same generator. Yes, one can over tighten them however the military would not have given troops a pricker/cleaner with the wrench if they did not intend to have them EVER remove ...

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I will walk you through how to remove and repack that gen after you make sure you get good flow from the valve. For now leave the gen tip off since you've already removed it

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Those tips are not made to be removed. The tube is roll formed around the nipple of the tip. If its loose in any way when you put it back in throw it away. I have seen one come out on a running lantern because of this. It ain't pretty. And you are sure you get a steady flow out of the v...

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Have you used the pricker on the new gen tip? If not, try that. It may look clear but often new ones have something just small enough to block it.

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<blockquote>Eccentric Blockhead wrote: I have pulled up a chair. This is interesting. It makes sense why one wouldn't want to use it to repair a pressurized vessel that leaks. But is POR-15 good to use as a preventative rustproof coating for older foun...

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<blockquote>Majicwrench wrote: Kellyblues, thanks for the great write-up. But then, is it safe to run ANY old lantern? ANY old lantern, heck even a lot of new lanterns, can and do leak. And catch on fire. NONE of these GPS's should really be lit, say, in a house, on a ta...

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Im going to set the stage for you a little bit Dan. Lets talk pressured fuel vessels for just a bit. That’s what these things are. Because we have members encompassing the globe I’m not using a USA standard or requirement. The international Fuel Gas code states that any pressure fuel vessel...

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JimL wrote: As Confucius said, the only thing constant is change.

Absolutely . But when its an global industrial standard the ink should be dry on the last revision before another large change ,or change back to earlier version. Lol

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<blockquote>deanofid wrote: I just looked up the MSDS for Aspen4T. (They call it something other than MSDS in England, but it looks like what we call the data sheet.) According to the chems in the stuff, it is up to 95% naphtha, which should run well in your Colemans. </bl...

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Most are home made yes. There have been flat wrap around reflectors sold by Coleman. A good rule of thumb is that Coleman has always been good about marking their products. Very few things don't have their name stamped into them.

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<blockquote>toddcline wrote: Well that's a pretty good idea! I might have to rig up something similar. Reminds me of the damper control on the old coal furnaces. Most of you are too young to remember that stuff. But it makes sense.. Thanks!! Todd</blockquote> Not if ...

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<blockquote>MotorcycleDan wrote: [QUOTE=Dmacp]Yeah. Sam Blank. He reads here, once in a while he posts. He also gave a talk at one of the ICCC conferences and I missed it. I bet it was informative. I know he made several varieties, pretty sure they were the ones in the ora...

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Cool beans. Thanks for the update.

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<blockquote>JimDouglasJr wrote: Killer bright, not as tough as Peerless (nothing is), but better than Current Coleman. Like most mantles, they become rigid and fragile once burned off, but they're super bright and stronger than current Coleman. Peerless remain a litt...

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Very nice items! They should clean up very well. Welcome to the CCF!

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HillCountry wrote: Any time I see a red valve knob I assume that it is a Nulite.

That's a good starting point. Keep in mind AGM was known for throwing a red knob on here and there also.

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CanukColeman wrote: would someone have use avgas 100 LL. The color is blue on this but it is expensive.
Thomas

Unless it was free. I wondered that myself.

kellyblues

Good deal. Good lesson. Those dark sport are caused by something effecting the air/fuel ratio somewhere. Thanks for the follow up.

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