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Want to buy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:35 pm
by 12057dave
Looking to buy a generator for a Montgomery Ward lantern. Model # 14-RA-86-7276. Terry Marsh’s site calls it a model 400G. The site also says filler cap is Akron style and the generator and valve knob are AGM. I picked up this lantern at a consignment auction just last night. But alas the PO broke the tip cleaner in the tip. Sure hope someone can help me out. Pictures are of actual lantern. Sorry for the double picture.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:56 pm
by Whitegas Extraordinaire
Dave
Don't lose that pricker. A skilled craftsman can switch out the rod with a new one with a pricker and afix to your pinion.
Might that be the generator Werner has a stack of?

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:03 pm
by 12057dave
Thanks for the heads up and quick response Kevin! Sure was a bummer when I discovered that. I would be more than willing to ship it to someone that knows what they are doing. I’m going to need a lot of guidance on this animal.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:22 pm
by Tgarner01
I would check with Werner first. I found the rack n pinion gen for one of my AGM's on OCP that was listed as unknown. I just matched up the dimensions and it worked. Not sure if they still have some or not.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:23 pm
by Majicwrench
Lantern willl certainly work without pricker too.

If I was fixing that (just throwing stuff at you) if there is any of old wire sticking out you may be able to pull more out.
If you cut an inch off, would be pretty simple to put the top inch of a Coleman pricker on it, use whatever diameter wire whatever you could find that was the ID of the tubing you cut. (hope this makes sense)

Whatever you do, be gentle with that rack adn pinion, they are not sturdy. And you might check for stress cracks too.

Good looking lantern for sure.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:37 pm
by 12057dave
Thanks Toby. I’ll definitely check with OCP. Thanks Keith. I kind of get what you’re saying. This is way beyond what my capabilities are😞. I’m pretty sure there is a piece of pricker wire stuck in the tip. I’ll keep at it to see if I can get it out. And as far as the rod you are saying there is more wire inside that could be pulled out?

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:42 am
by Majicwrench
I'm gonna do the "Cut an inch off the generator and splice on a new inch w good wire) on a 519 heater this winter, I'll take pictures

and yes, in the brass tube, betting there is more wire inside when they crimp it, if you can get to it.....

Good luck getting wire out of tip. I have one generator (off an AGM) where they gave up and drilled another hole . IT kinda works.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:59 am
by 12057dave
Good news! Upon closer inspection I found the pricker wire was bent down around the rod. I managed to straighten it out and reassembled the lantern. I tied a mantle to it and she fired up. Now it’s leaking from the cleaner rod😞. Any ideas on how to disassemble the cleaner rod/rack and pinion to clean it? I noticed something like maybe there was packing in there. Yes/no? Sorry to be a pain.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:15 am
by Tgarner01
Akron is notorious for their packings leaking. Honestly they don't use very much in there and caution should be taken as those fine brass threads are easily stripped. If snugging it up just a little doesn't help I generally pick out the old packing and then add the graphite tape OCP sells... Like I mentioned it doesn't take very much.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:43 am
by 12057dave
Excellent Toby! Thank you so much for the help! You’ve given me renewed hope. Snugging it up didn’t help. Packing tape here I come. The ole girl isn’t done for just yet. I’ll post a picture when I get her going.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:13 am
by Lines
Good luck Dave. Can't wait for the results.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:15 am
by 12057dave
Thanks Robert!

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:19 am
by Majicwrench
AGM used to put a little note in with their lanterns tellling you to tighten the nut if it leaks and keep an eye on it. I would snug it a little more.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:20 pm
by sleebus
Majicwrench wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:42 am I'm gonna do the "Cut an inch off the generator and splice on a new inch w good wire) on a 519 heater this winter, I'll take pictures
Fyi, OCP has G8 generators in stock. :shock:

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:19 pm
by Majicwrench
Thanks Michael!

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:41 pm
by adkbill
sleebus wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:20 pm
Majicwrench wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:42 am I'm gonna do the "Cut an inch off the generator and splice on a new inch w good wire) on a 519 heater this winter, I'll take pictures
Fyi, OCP has G8 generators in stock. :shock:
They don't come up often, so I picked up a couple
and there are now 3 left

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:15 pm
by 12057dave
Thanks Michael. I need to order some graphite ribbon packing. I’ll look into a generator too. Appreciate the info.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:55 am
by sleebus
FWIW, I had a G8 generator on my ebay watch list for 3 years and had zero hits. If anyone is looking for one, now is the time.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:16 am
by Majicwrench
Bought one from OCP early today

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:59 pm
by 12057dave
Could anyone send the link or description to the generator on the OCP site. I’ve looked and I’m having difficulty finding the G8. Enjoy your day today with family first. No hurry. Thanks and have a Blessed Thanksgiving.

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:19 pm
by adkbill
12057dave wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:59 pm Could anyone send the link or description to the generator on the OCP site. I’ve looked and I’m having difficulty finding the G8. Enjoy your day today with family first. No hurry. Thanks and have a Blessed Thanksgiving.
It was searchable yesterday just by putting in G8.
Not so now, so I guess they sold out.
You might try calling tomorrow, but word gets out quick on rare items

Re: Want to buy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:47 pm
by 12057dave
Thanks Bill. I didn’t have much luck. I’ll put a call through to Rob tomorrow and see what’s going on. Thanks again.