Several Parts are different in 242c

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teetee711
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Several Parts are different in 242c

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I just got my very first 242c in nickel (8/48) and green (4/47).
However, I noticed that several parts are different, any ideas?

a. That is a small hole on the frame, but compared to the next one it doesn't have it. Is this common? Should I weld it? (Red circle)

b. What does 2 mean in the middle of the frame? (Yellow circle)

c. Why one of the burner tube come with additional screws? Can it be added by the previous owner? (White circle)

d. Please note that the pump screw on the green base has only 1 screw, while the nickel has only 2. Any idea?
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I'm not seeing anything that stands out I would be worried about. The difference between the painted and nickel C's were often to do with Coleman conserving materials even tho it was post war... Happy fettling 👍
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Re: Several Parts are different in 242c

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teetee711 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 6:42 am I just got my very first 242c in nickel (8/48) and green (4/47).
However, I noticed that several parts are different, any ideas?
a. That is a small hole on the frame, but compared to the next one it doesn't have it. Is this common? Should I weld it? (Red circle)
b. What does 2 mean in the middle of the frame?
In regards to your question a. The small hole on the frame is just an imperfection in the casting and should not have an impact on the lantern operation.
As to question b. The 2 on the frame is a casting number for the mold.
+ 1 what Toby posted ....
Tgarner01 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 11:10 am I'm not seeing anything that stands out I would be worried about. The difference between the painted and nickel C's were often to do with Coleman conserving materials even tho it was post war... Happy fettling 👍
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Not 100% sure but you may find the check valve is different as well. Sometime around there they went from a narrow slotted CV with a larger thread for the stem, to the modern wide slot and smaller thread style. They are interchangeable though. The new CV will fit the old fount but you have to use the new stem with the new CV as the threads are different.
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sounds like a research project. Painted "C"s usually had only one screw on the pump cap. Sometimes only one hole, sometimes 2.
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Its my understanding the C's weren't planned. They had an abundance of parts from the two earlier versions and made what was necessary to liquidate them by producing the C. That's why there's a range of differences with them. One of the many smart business decisions that made them what they became. Like using left over surplus iron handles for lantern reflector handles. Or changing fount color to match off color vents. They were masters at preventing losses.
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The air stem in the CV didn't change diameter/ thread until the '90s I think. I believe that is also when they added the o-ring to the CV...
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