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I am restoring a 220. The font is in good shape except for the pump tube. The walls that the pump cup rub agains are rusty and it makes the pump difficult to use. Can I "hone" the inside to clean it out? I have it in rust remover but wanted to clean up the walls int eh pump tube if I can. I am thinking of a hone like you would use in a drill. Thoughts?
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Yep, does a quick job.
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" Can I "hone" the inside to clean it out?"

I'd just use some maybe 400 grit auto body wet sand paper around my finger to smooth the tube walls of any protruding rust.
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Take a piece of 5/16 tubing long enough to reach the bottom and cut a 1/2 to 3/4" long slot in the end with a hacksaw. Slip in a piece of emery cloth into the slot so it winds up grit side out and spin it in the tube with a drill. It work real good.
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Do others see what Toby posted above? I only see an Amazon 'a' in Firefox and absolutely nothing in Opera. Are others seeing something in his post?
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I see a hone.
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JimL wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:33 pm Do others see what Toby posted above? I only see an Amazon 'a' in Firefox and absolutely nothing in Opera. Are others seeing something in his post?
I'm seeing nothing in Chrome.
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JimL wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:33 pm Do others see what Toby posted above? I only see an Amazon 'a' in Firefox and absolutely nothing in Opera. Are others seeing something in his post?
Jim I just double checked and the link is working for me on mobile.... But I just noticed the price!! 😳 It's more than doubled since I bought it!!! Geez...
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If one needs a gizmo to clean the inside of the tube, then find something round (pencil, dowel, or similar) that you can chuck in a drill. Get a strip, maybe 1.5" wide of a scotch bright style scrub pad and hot glue the strip end to the end of the dowel. Roll the strip on the end of the dowel until the roll will just fit in the pump, and cut off the rest. Now you have something to put in the pump tube to chuck in a drill and buff the inside of the pump tube. Sand paper could be added to this for more aggressive cleaning. That being said, i could have already cleaned the pump tube by hand in the time it took me to type this. ;)
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I see the Flex Hone that Toby posted. That's the tool I use for rusty pump tubes. Works great.
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Thanks. I can somewhat understand not seeing certain things in Firefox due to running NoScript to automatically block all trackers and having to give explicit permission, but I've enabled nothing additional on Opera. I'm surprised I'm seeing nothing. I won't even consider using Chrome, so won't test that browser.

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Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

Thanks, Toby - just to be sure - these are the specs you're using:
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CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

Thanks, Toby - just to be sure - these are the specs you're using:
Yes Kelly that is the one I ordered. You could get by with a finer grit, but the 240 does just fine. I'm shocked at the price increase... Possibly a cheaper source available?
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Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

This is what I use. The pump tube tends to be pitted from the rust, and a flat-stone type cylinder hone will have to remove metal from the tube until the surface is flush with the lowest pit. The Flex Hone is, well, flexible, so it just smooths everything out and removes much less metal. One of these will likely polish every rusted pump tube you encounter in a long life of fettling.
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Tgarner01 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:29 pm
CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

Thanks, Toby - just to be sure - these are the specs you're using:
Yes Kelly that is the one I ordered. You could get by with a finer grit, but the 240 does just fine. I'm shocked at the price increase... Possibly a cheaper source available?
$7.59 for mine...
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What?!!... It would be nearly $25 for me! Get three for that price 😁
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CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:55 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:29 pm
CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

Thanks, Toby - just to be sure - these are the specs you're using:
Yes Kelly that is the one I ordered. You could get by with a finer grit, but the 240 does just fine. I'm shocked at the price increase... Possibly a cheaper source available?
$7.59 for mine...

Where? Brush Research wants more than Azon direct from them. When I bought several of these a few years back--to hone pistol cylinders and some stuff around the brewery--BR was the cheapest at ~$18 each.
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Gunhippie wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:32 pm
CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:55 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:29 pm
CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

Thanks, Toby - just to be sure - these are the specs you're using:
Yes Kelly that is the one I ordered. You could get by with a finer grit, but the 240 does just fine. I'm shocked at the price increase... Possibly a cheaper source available?
$7.59 for mine...

Where? Brush Research wants more than Azon direct from them. When I bought several of these a few years back--to hone pistol cylinders and some stuff around the brewery--BR was the cheapest at ~$18 each.
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Gunhippie wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:32 pm
CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:55 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:29 pm
CoolPro wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am My weapon of choice.

Thanks, Toby - just to be sure - these are the specs you're using:
Yes Kelly that is the one I ordered. You could get by with a finer grit, but the 240 does just fine. I'm shocked at the price increase... Possibly a cheaper source available?
$7.59 for mine...

Where? Brush Research wants more than Azon direct from them. When I bought several of these a few years back--to hone pistol cylinders and some stuff around the brewery--BR was the cheapest at ~$18 each.
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A pistol or a hand cannon?

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I just got the 7/8 flex-hone to use on rusty pump tube. It looks a bit big - do i need to kind of cram it in there? Or did i get one size too big?

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3/4"!

I didn't read the description from Azon.

3/4" fits perfectly.
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Phredd wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:24 pm I just got the 7/8 flex-hone to use on rusty pump tube. It looks a bit big - do i need to kind of cram it in there? Or did i get one size too big?
It'll go in there Phredd. It's a little snug, but works.

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I was just wondering here, if the pump tube was made of brass, what's the rusting there all about?
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If it's rusting, it ain't brass!
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