Rust Removal on Bottom of Fount?

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Rust Removal on Bottom of Fount?

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What would y'all recommend as to how to remove the rust at the bottom of this fount without damaging the painted IDF insignia? I'm a big fan of Evapo-Rust ..... but afraid that if any rust has migrated under the IDF paint,it would also cause the paint to flake off.
Thanks for your suggestions ......
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Touch each spot with some naval jelly. Or, get a can of rust converter from Rustoueum and spray some into the lid of the can, dip a small brush into the puddle you made and touch each rust spot with it. I sprayed the whole roof of a Willys wagon that was covered in similar rust and it looked nice and flat black without further attention for over a year and a half. Then it sold so I can't tell you if it will last in perpetuity.
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I second naval jelly
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I don't want to sound "dumb" ..... but where do you find naval jelly? I checked Walmart and Home Depot and they don't have it locally in the store.
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gwillmot wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:31 pm I don't want to sound "dumb" ..... but where do you find naval jelly? I checked Walmart and Home Depot and they don't have it locally in the store.
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I found mine on Wally World last year at clearance so maybe they stopped selling them.

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Thanks Pancho, will check to auto stores next time I'm out.
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Naval Jelly is phosphoric acid mostly. Transforms rust into a paintable surface. Many products out there have it and usually have words like "rust reformer" or some such on them.

I would just hit each spot with a brass wire wheel from my drill. Hit it with a rust resistant primer and do your top coats. Maybe a clear coat over that and bake it.

Some members curse wire wheels but I find the brass is forgiving especially when I'm going to repaint anyway.
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if it is surface rust why not dab some rust converter on it?
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the problem i have here is , the bottom looks clean ? so did this start from the inside and work itself out ? and your just seeing the tip,of the iceberg or ? its all on the stamped letters , so can ya look inside ?
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SteveRetherford wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:53 am the problem i have here is , the bottom looks clean ? so did this start from the inside and work itself out ? and your just seeing the tip,of the iceberg or ? its all on the stamped letters , so can ya look inside ?
I haven't received the lantern yet, but pretty sure it's surface rust only as the seller also sent this picture:
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I'm also going to try these rust removal pencils:
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Dmacp wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:33 am if it is surface rust why not dab some rust converter on it?
I'm definitely going to do that when the rust is relatively distant from the IDF insignia. My concern is that there seems to be some discoloration under the white stamp. If it is rust, I don't know if the rust "converter" would therefore also remove or damage the insignia. If it won't, I'll just soak in Evapo-Rust for awhile.
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i dont know if you guys have seen there are two ebay sellers that look to be from that same household .... i see the same WC coleman picture in both of there backgrounds .... they sure have a lot of coleman stuff !!!
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Naval Jelly is now under the Loctite label.
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SteveRetherford wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:28 pm i dont know if you guys have seen there are two ebay sellers that look to be from that same household .... i see the same WC coleman picture in both of there backgrounds .... they sure have a lot of coleman stuff !!!
There's two? I've bought from olehershberger a couple times... You're correct lots of my kind of stuff for sale.
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look over this sellers stuff n tell me what you think

https://www.ebay.com/usr/jonti56?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
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SteveRetherford wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:48 pm look over this sellers stuff n tell me what you think

https://www.ebay.com/usr/jonti56?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Looks the same to me, maybe a little more variety? I would think with the amount of Coleman they sell, that they would be members here? Good stuff generally.
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Interesting .... lantern arrived and upon closer inspection ..... "rust" spots appear to be paint chips with light rust covering the bare metal. More interesting is the lack of paint on the INSIDE of the bottom rim. After some thought, I'm thinking "damage" from stuff stored in an accessory safe.
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i got an old lantern once with a safe on the bottom , i had a heck of a time getting that safe off and when i did it pee'd on me . it was holding rust water inside !!! soggy silk lites dried out n worked fine but really made me think twice about using safes .
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Is a baking soda rinse needed to neutralize the Naval Jelly after use?
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Would anyone recommend spraying a clear coat, or applying a thin coat of a thick lubricant like axle grease to the bottom of a nickel fount after de-rusting? I am considering this for a lantern that would only leave the shelf for the rare light up here and there. Kind of looking for a fix it and forget it kind of solution.
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