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Citronella in the fuel?

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Ok, was somebody pulling my leg when they told me to put Citronella Oil in with the fuel to drive mosquitos away?
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Nope. I use citronella in my CF lanterns. 75/25 mix. You can run 100% citronella in kero lanterns.
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Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:19 am Nope. I use citronella in my CF lanterns. 75/25 mix. You can run 100% citronella in kero lanterns.
Does it seem to drive the bugs away at all?
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basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:23 am
Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:19 am Nope. I use citronella in my CF lanterns. 75/25 mix. You can run 100% citronella in kero lanterns.
Does it seem to drive the bugs away at all?
Well. I went to my grandmas house right off the white river for a night fishing trip. Brought to lanterns. One had citronella the other was refilled CF. CF one had like a half inch of dead bugs inside. The other had only a few. With bright lights, there’s always going to be bugs, but it’s reduced for sure. Works better than amber globe I say.
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Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:26 am
basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:23 am
Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:19 am Nope. I use citronella in my CF lanterns. 75/25 mix. You can run 100% citronella in kero lanterns.
Does it seem to drive the bugs away at all?
Well. I went to my grandmas house right off the white river for a night fishing trip. Brought to lanterns. One had citronella the other was refilled CF. CF one had like a half inch of dead bugs inside. The other had only a few. With bright lights, there’s always going to be bugs, but it’s reduced for sure. Works better than amber globe I say.
Great info..thanks! so 25% seems to be the ticket then?
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basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:28 am
Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:26 am
basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:23 am
Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:19 am Nope. I use citronella in my CF lanterns. 75/25 mix. You can run 100% citronella in kero lanterns.
Does it seem to drive the bugs away at all?
Well. I went to my grandmas house right off the white river for a night fishing trip. Brought to lanterns. One had citronella the other was refilled CF. CF one had like a half inch of dead bugs inside. The other had only a few. With bright lights, there’s always going to be bugs, but it’s reduced for sure. Works better than amber globe I say.
Great info..thanks!
Should add the citronella one wasn’t just citronella. Was the CF citronella mix
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75%/25% is the ticket then, right?
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Not to hijack this thread but can you smell the citronella when tuning the lantern?
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basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:30 am 75%/25% is the ticket then, right?
I’ve done 50/50, but Dang! She’s scary to light man. The citronella is similar to kero so some bigger flames for longer than straight CF. Works a bit better and the smell is stronger.
D421 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:34 am Not to hijack this thread but can you smell the citronella when tuning the lantern?
Tuning? I can smell it when burning the lantern.
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"Ok, was somebody pulling my leg when they told me to put Citronella Oil in with the fuel to drive mosquitos away?"

They probably believed what they were saying, but there is probably a big difference in the end product between using citronella oil in a Coleman gas lantern and in the typical wick burning device. In the Coleman lantern the combustion is so hot and complete that citronella itself will not survive the combustion process to later have any effect on mosquitos.
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:oops: Thanks Levi I meant burning.
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D421 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:10 am :oops: Thanks Levi I meant burning.
Haha. It’s real strong when starting I guess. In my experience.
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On a website that featured vintage Coleman fuel cans, I saw a can that actually said "Citronella" on the label. So apparently there was a market for a fuel with citronella added, and Coleman sold it.

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D421 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:34 am Not to hijack this thread but can you smell the citronella when tuning the lantern?
My answer is NO, I run straight citronella in my Hipólita and Boat Anchor lantern (Randy words lol) and I can’t smell it, but In my wick lanterns is very noticeable
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Kay-Mo wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:13 am On a website that featured vintage Coleman fuel cans, I saw a can that actually said "Citronella" on the label. So apparently there was a market for a fuel with citronella added, and Coleman sold it.

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Rubing wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:51 pm
Kay-Mo wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:13 am On a website that featured vintage Coleman fuel cans, I saw a can that actually said "Citronella" on the label. So apparently there was a market for a fuel with citronella added, and Coleman sold it.

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Thank you! That is awesome and I think it puts the debate to rest!
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yeah but just because Coleman sold it ...doesn't mean it worked and IF it worked, how come they don't sell it anymore?
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i tried 75/25 WG and Tiki bitefighter in my 285 it ran like ass. Maybe 220s cope better with lamp oil? also noticed bugs in my area aren't fazed someone mentioned that combustion is so complete that the citronella cannot do its job.
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basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:31 amyeah but just because Coleman sold it ...doesn't mean it worked and IF it worked, how come they don't sell it anymore?


Anyone noticed that generators coke up or carbon faster using Citronella? Coleman was always insistent that only clean unleaded gasoline be used, no oils (or "doped") additives.
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Stovie wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:15 pm
basenjib123 wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:31 amyeah but just because Coleman sold it ...doesn't mean it worked and IF it worked, how come they don't sell it anymore?


Anyone noticed that generators coke up or carbon faster using Citronella? Coleman was always insistent that only clean unleaded gasoline be used, no oils (or "doped") additives.
mine seemed to recover as soon as i drained the fuel/oil mix and refilled with clean fuel. I can't comment on carbon as I have one of the "unopenable" 285 gens in there. maybe someone here will chime in w/wisdom or experience. I noticed the lamp oil was "fogging" especially in the fount.

ps I know that the 285 gens are serviceable but this one is new so I'm not gonna fiddle with it quite yet.
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I'm sure that Coleman or anyone else using citronella in camp fuel would not have added tiki torch fuel, but actual citronella oil in some quantity of drops, not ounces.

285 gens aren't "unopenable", just more difficult the very first time. If one re-uses that bushing, well, they get what they deserve. :)
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JimL wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:00 pm I'm sure that Coleman or anyone else using citronella in camp fuel would not have added tiki torch fuel, but actual citronella oil in some quantity of drops, not ounces.

285 gens aren't "unopenable", just more difficult the very first time. If one re-uses that bushing, well, they get what they deserve. :)
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JimL wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:00 pm I'm sure that Coleman or anyone else using citronella in camp fuel would not have added tiki torch fuel, but actual citronella oil in some quantity of drops, not ounces.

285 gens aren't "unopenable", just more difficult the very first time. If one re-uses that bushing, well, they get what they deserve. :)
I was looking around for pure citronella oil but can't seem to find anything but I was thinking that too, just a few drops in the fuel but others were saying running citronella lamp oil mixed with CF worked... maybe they used a different brand? oh well it looks like i'll just need to bring my oil lanterns along too... darn it :lol: I have found that the dimple in the 285 gen can be smoothed out (thanks to soft brass) allowing that bushing to act as a guide but the packing on that thing is a sheer mystery. I am still trying to get my head around "packing theory" but I like your idea of using brass wool, just need to order some. Last time I tried to use copper wire as a packing I destroyed my pricker needle while wrapping the wire around the rod. Flickering bugs (no pun intended) me too that's why i love gas lamps, I cannot stand color temp or high frequency flutter of LEDs or fluorescent tubes especially while camping. Some days I will bring my coleman lamp to the office and use it at my desk versus the harsh LED lamps in the ceiling. BTW to open that 285 gen I used those automotive push-pin removal pliers with the rod clamped in vice grips. worked brilliantly!
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I've never bought the pure citronella oil, but have seen it on ebay. I just looked at one seller and a 1 oz bottle was $6 with free shipping.

One thing I noticed long ago is that some of those citronella tiki torch fuels no longer even contain citronella oil, but have switched to lemongrass oil. For anyone planning to use a citronella tiki torch fuel, I suggest reading the ingredients list.
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JimL wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:20 pm I've never bought the pure citronella oil, but have seen it on ebay. I just looked at one seller and a 1 oz bottle was $6 with free shipping.

One thing I noticed long ago is that some of those citronella tiki torch fuels no longer even contain citronella oil, but have switched to lemongrass oil. For anyone planning to use a citronella tiki torch fuel, I suggest reading the ingredients list.
Yeah I shoulda looked but considering how parts are getting hard to find I think I'll stick to regular white gas and use the red hurrican (yes, silent E) lanterns for the bugs. They're nice too bc once we are sitting at the fire I can turn off the gas lantern and save fuel. those oil lamps can run for hours! and they provide enough light so I can see what I'm doing when relighting.
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