Is the igniter just decoration?

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Is the igniter just decoration?

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This one is on a 60's 228F, don't know if it sold with it or added. Thought I'd take it apart, put in a flint, check it out. Didn't work.

I have some Zippo's and am familiar with their simple function, but between the lengths of the flint, tube, compressed spring, and follower, there isn't enough room to screw the follower back in. What the heck. Then noticed I couldn't get the wheel to turn at all. If I can't get to work will probably just leave it off. Wondering if that is what most of you do...

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Some folks like them, some don't.

If you can't get it to reassemble and the wheel doesn't turn, check for a stuck and disintegrated flint right behind the wheel. I find this pretty common with old flint.
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JimL wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:46 am Some folks like them, some don't.

If you can't get it to reassemble and the wheel doesn't turn, check for a stuck and disintegrated flint right behind the wheel. I find this pretty common with old flint.
Thanks, I wondering about that, still doesn't seem like there is enough room.
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Since it's a short barrel, if you have some small drill bits, you may be able to drill it out by hand. I mean that literally, not using a drill. You'll want to dig until you see the drill bit at the wheel. When clear, there's room for one flint and one flint only.

If you haven't used one before, you'll soon understand why many folks here call them whump sticks. It's where the fumes all ignite at once and makes a nice whump sound and you jump back if not familiar. :) Just make certain it's locked down when installed so that barrel doesn't spin and hit the globe.
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JimL wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:18 am Since it's a short barrel, if you have some small drill bits, you may be able to drill it out by hand. I mean that literally, not using a drill. You'll want to dig until you see the drill bit at the wheel. When clear, there's room for one flint and one flint only.

If you haven't used one before, you'll soon understand why many folks here call them whump sticks. It's where the fumes all ignite at once and makes a nice whump sound and you jump back if not familiar. :) Just make certain it's locked down when installed so that barrel doesn't spin and hit the globe.
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I leave them out
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Everything JimL said is spot on. I have sparkies on some of my lanterns, mostly for show, sometimes I use them. They leave a nice mess on the bottom of the frame.

Did you check in the knurled cap for an extra flint? The ones I have, they have had a extra flint in the cap.
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Kgam1020 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:20 pm Everything JimL said is spot on. I have sparkies on some of my lanterns, mostly for show, sometimes I use them. They leave a nice mess on the bottom of the frame.

Did you check in the knurled cap for an extra flint? The ones I have, they have had a extra flint in the cap.
Thanks, when I have some time, suppose I can pick at it some. I assume by knurled cap you mean the one with the set screw.

Also, when I turn it the whole thing rotates, so if there is a part inside the long tube for turning the wheel, it is seized.
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burnt bacon wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:26 pm
Kgam1020 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:20 pm Everything JimL said is spot on. I have sparkies on some of my lanterns, mostly for show, sometimes I use them. They leave a nice mess on the bottom of the frame.

Did you check in the knurled cap for an extra flint? The ones I have, they have had a extra flint in the cap.
Thanks, when I have some time, suppose I can pick at it some. I assume by knurled cap you mean the one with the set screw.
Yes the cap you actually twist with your fingers.
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Kgam1020 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:30 pm
burnt bacon wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:26 pm
Kgam1020 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:20 pm Everything JimL said is spot on. I have sparkies on some of my lanterns, mostly for show, sometimes I use them. They leave a nice mess on the bottom of the frame.

Did you check in the knurled cap for an extra flint? The ones I have, they have had a extra flint in the cap.
Thanks, when I have some time, suppose I can pick at it some. I assume by knurled cap you mean the one with the set screw.
Yes the cap you actually twist with your fingers.
Thanks, I edited with another issue...
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I went looking for your edit since you didn't explicitly state what the edit was. Is it where you mentioned the whole thing rotates?
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BB, this might address your spinning issue:

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JimL wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:39 pm I went looking for your edit since you didn't explicitly state what the edit was. Is it where you mentioned the whole thing rotates?
Thanks, Ridgerunner addressed it.
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Ridge Runner wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:56 pm BB, this might address your spinning issue:

viewtopic.php?p=331533#p331533
Thanks, I did see that thread. The whole thing appears seized, but I'll play with it some more.

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Announcement: We have a 'whumper'... :lol:

Pulled the wheel part out of the tube, which exposed a fairly large, hardened, stuck piece of flint in the end. I put the apparatus in a small vice, and using a long nail and hammer, started poking at it on both ends. It eventually worked free but that little piece of flint took a lot of force to puncture it thru and eventually loosen it all up.

Mission accomplished...thanks to all... ;)
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Glad to hear!
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Kgam1020 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:04 pm Glad to hear!
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