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242A help

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I got my 242A running today. I have a couple of questions. It runs really smooth but seems dim. The pump doesn't seem to be as smooth as later lanterns. I was going to put a new pump cup on it but it looks like the pump cup is sandwiched between two metal discs that are press-fit on. Is there a way to easily change these? Also, I know with the early pump you don' t have a air stem to positively shut the air off. Is it safe to add air by pumping it up while it's running? I would assume so , but when you are playing with fire it's easier to ask first.
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The A pumps with the PIP are kinda wonky by design, probably the reason that didn’t last very long.
I pump my while running just like any other lantern but I do have a new pip.

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i know this guy selling those sandwiched pump cups :-)
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You're safe to add while running, even tho these use a pip they still have a snorkel running up into air like the later check valve setups, in fact you can use later parts on your lantern if so inclined. Steve should have your cups.
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Ok. Thanks. That's what I thought but wanted to be sure. I changed the pip so we should be good there. Steve I might be in the market for one of those.
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Tgarner01 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:07 pm You're safe to add while running, even tho these use a pip they still have a snorkel running up into air like the later check valve setups, in fact you can use later parts on your lantern if so inclined. Steve should have your cups.
I forgot about one of Coleman’s specific design features!

Ya it would be nice to see a picture. Probably one of the wtb items we see more requests for here. :D

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Andy Has a new leather on the way , but it doesnt look like he really NEEDS one :-)

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I've always wondered why Coleman would just bag a known to work design--the CV and air stem--and go with a much less reliable and safe design like an NRV.
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SteveRetherford wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:06 pm i know this guy selling those sandwiched pump cups :-)
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Gunhippie wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:21 am I've always wondered why Coleman would just bag a known to work design--the CV and air stem--and go with a much less reliable and safe design like an NRV.
I always figured it was a cost cutting measure... But to be honest I'm not sure they would've been "cheaper" to make... 🤔 I know every one of them I've ever messed with has fought me the whole way until they work... Then they're fine after that 🤷‍♂️ Positive shut offs for this hillbilly....
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I see from the diagram in post #7 above, from Steve, that the pump assembly must have been installed before the bottom on the fount was put on. i.e. installed from the inside since the 'snorkel' tube would not clear the pump tube hole from the outside.
Which all goes to remind me that the Dutch invented the 'schnorkel' for their submarines, but the Germans found some new schnorkels on the docks, or wharves, awaiting installation, and promptly took them up.
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