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220b find

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Stumbled across this guy. Bottom has a zero and an eight stamped. Does that make it august of 1930? Looks better after a round of soap and water and a scrub brush. Could use a round two. I oiled the leather in the pump and it pumps up good. Any thing else I should do before firing it up?
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Re: 220b find

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Nice B!! Reverse dated it appears. Is that a brass direction disk?
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Wow!!!! That’s super sick man! I’m with Toby. Brass direction disk? Also, I’ve never seen that sunrise logo without quick lite in it. Pretty sweet!
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Yes, Aug. 1930
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Definitely the early one, got a june of 30 myself. One thing to look for is the fuel pick up tube. The early side mesh ones were easy to clog because mine had to be burned off as chunks of god knows what kept coming out as I burned it and had to pick through the remains inside the inner tube.
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Re: 220b find

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Thanks guys! Yes the direction disc appears to be brass. The pics make it look better than it is. It has some dings in the fount and some gnarly chips in the vent. Hope to get it working as a user! Will watch for the pickup tube.
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nice i have a few of those also. early in my collecting i passed on one as it was all apart and i thought the vent brim was cut off. how little i knew then.
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Very nice find! Stamped without the word QuickLite below Coleman. Looks like a portion of the Q on the left and the e on the right.
For some reason I’m drawing a blank on the Made In U.S.A. stamping. I have a couple but don’t remember that particular stamping.
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Love the small hat B’s. It will make a great user but would be great in any collection. The chips and wear are honest. You asked about anything else? I would definitely replace the cap gasket sooner then later but if it is holding pressure you may try it but the washers dry out and should be replaced if they get hard. Once you get it going, it will make a definite slurping sound unique to these lanterns, something you should realize is normal.

Other observations: That is a nice early globe too and from the looks,of the carbon on it somebody didn’t read the fine print on lighting the lantern. If it flares at first, just shut it back down and then ease it open again. The generator will heat up and it will run fine. Also, the winged fuel caps are hard to come by and original to the lantern. It does deserve a correct vent nut. The nut and cap washer should be available from the sponsor as well as a spare generator.
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Thanks Marty. Will check on the nut and washer. The wing nut was a temp thing I put on because it was missing. Thanks on the operating advice also.
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Very cool! it will clean up nice and be a great runner.
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brokenmantle wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:59 am nice i have a few of those also. early in my collecting i passed on one as it was all apart and i thought the vent brim was cut off. how little i knew then.
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If you haven't figured it out yet, the globe is worth probably at least 4x the lantern itself. Be gentle, and you may want to consider running it with a replacement.
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ecblanks wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:10 pm If you haven't figured it out yet, the globe is worth probably at least 4x the lantern itself. Be gentle, and you may want to consider running it with a replacement.
Will definitely pick up another globe to run. Do all the 220 series globes fit the same?

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Yes
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Thanks. Ordered a new globe. Will try to get some time to work on it this weekend.
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ssoooo .. school me on the rarity of the globe, hard to tell, is it sand etched ?

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surffisher60 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:55 pm ssoooo .. school me on the rarity of the globe, hard to tell, is it sand etched ?

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carlton,
interesting, in all the years of endless garage sales, flea markets etc. have yet to see one .... the hunt is on ! lol .. thanks for the insight.

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Hello and welcome. Entering the room with a score like that certainly makes a splash. It's hard to come up with an encore after that one. Super nice globe, too. Good luck with the light up.
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Great find and especially that globe!

Polish that brass direction disk. They bling up nicely!

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Gunhippie wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:13 pm Great find and especially that globe!

Polish that brass direction disk. They bling up nicely!

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Nice!

Will do.

Having second thoughts about using this guy. Will fire it up and check it out but I'm thinking I should find another 220 series to use and put this one up.
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Will do.

Having second thoughts about using this guy. Will fire it up and check it out but I'm thinking I should find another 220 series to use and put this one up.
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Use it, if you think it is safe. But yeah I'd exercise some discretion with that globe. It made it this long...
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I don’t know of any ill effects that would come from using it. Maybe get someone to etch a new globe for you but as long as you use the right tools to work on it, you can tear it apart and have it working just like it did in 1930. I wont own a lantern that I can’t light.
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Other than the globe, that is a fairly common lantern and wouldn’t hurt to use it. A have a couple of 220B’s and a 220 (commonly called a slant) that I use all the time. Build a little plywood box that looks period correct for it and enjoy it if you want. It will draw attention at the campground.
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I like that setup Marty
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I take at least one of my 220/228Bs on most every trip. Something about running a 90-odd year-old lantern. Besides, they make that nifty gurgling/clinking sound and every one is a little different.

I would treat that globe like gold--it's about worth the same by weight. You could get a Fred K mica--the glass globe was an expensive upgrade (like a dollar more) in '30. Micas don't break!
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Okay. The globe is put up in a safe place. Just picked up a new globe from a hardware store to use on this guy.

Tried to fire it up today. It pumps up and holds pressure great. But I can’t seem to get enough fuel through the generator. At first nothing would come through but I have been soaking it in sea foam and spraying carb cleaner through it. It has gotten a little better each time. Think I may be better off waiting til the new generators I ordered to show up.

Pulled an old Akron out of my parents shed. Anyone know anything about them?
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Looks like a 131/132 of sorts, they had several versions from montgomery ward's 2 frame supports to the normal 4 support and such. A very hard gen to find and repair because of that tapered and brazed construction. That fuel cap seems larger and shorter so probably the 131.
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luggnut wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:41 pm Looks like a 131/132 of sorts, they had several versions from montgomery ward's 2 frame supports to the normal 4 support and such. A very hard gen to find and repair because of that tapered and brazed construction. That fuel cap seems larger and shorter so probably the 131.
Thanks luggnut!

I think first step is to see if I can get the check valve to seal better. If I can get it to pump up and hold pressure then I will worry about the generator.
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Globe Idea
I like to install Fred Kuntz mica "chimneys" in my 220Bs. They are historically correct and look nice. The last old B I found in the wild had mica in it.
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