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Peak 1 Feather 400

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This may be a silly question, but being new to Colemancollecteritis, I need to ask:

I just was given a Peak 1 Feather 400, # 4008701C...does this take a 400B generator?
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They take different generators. You can look up the part numbers by clicking on the Old Coleman Parts banner at the top of the CCF page, then click on the 'Parts Diagrams' tab, and finally selecting the item of interest
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Many thanks.
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I don't know about the 400, but the 400A generator is totally different than the 400B generator. The 400B generator is the somewhat affordable one.
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The feather 400 does take the 400b gen. No control knob on its gen.
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Hey, thanks for the info Kansas_John! I guess I will be submitting another order to OCP!

Poor thing had a seized pump, split filler cap gasket, missing o-ring, and quite a clogged generator...I think the previous owner took it scuba diving with him.

A great project now the snows have come!
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MotorcycleDan wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:17 pm This is the one you need.

https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product ... at=&page=1
This generator is for the 400B
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Kansas_John wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:01 am The feather 400 does take the 400b gen. No control knob on its gen.
Is this a typo? The 400 takes (discontinued) generator 400-5891, which has the control knob. The 400B takes generator 400B2891 (or 400C289C), which lacks the control knob and which is available at OCP. If I'm mistaken about this, my apologies in advance. Take a look at the exploded view of the 400 generator at the end of this post:

https://sklcolorado.wordpress.com/2019/ ... k-1-stove/
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TwoCanoes wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:31 pm
MotorcycleDan wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:17 pm This is the one you need.

https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product ... at=&page=1
This generator is for the 400B
If you look closely at my Feather 400 decal just to the right of it says 400B. These do not use the early gen with the adjustment lever.

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BrianP wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:54 pm This may be a silly question, but being new to Colemancollecteritis, I need to ask:

I just was given a Peak 1 Feather 400, # 4008701C...does this take a 400B generator?
Hmmm. Is there a typo here? Is your model number as stated, 4008701C, or could it be 400B701C? If the model number is actually 400B701C, then your stove is a 400B and the generator Dan referenced at OCP is, indeed, correct.
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TwoCanoes wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:37 pm
Kansas_John wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:01 am The feather 400 does take the 400b gen. No control knob on its gen.
Is this a typo? The 400 takes (discontinued) generator 400-5891, which has the control knob. The 400B takes generator 400B2891 (or 400C289C), which lacks the control knob and which is available at OCP. If I'm mistaken about this, my apologies in advance. Take a look at the exploded view of the 400 generator at the end of this post:

https://sklcolorado.wordpress.com/2019/ ... k-1-stove/
Not a typo. The feather 400, pictured by Toby in this thread, takes the later style generator. The label says real big "feather 400." The earlier Peak1 stoves (model 400/400a) take the earlier generator. The Feather 400, 442, 440, Exponent, Xcursion, Mountaineering(3024) and probably a couple other labels, take the later generator.
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Kansas_John wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:33 pm
TwoCanoes wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:37 pm
Kansas_John wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:01 am The feather 400 does take the 400b gen. No control knob on its gen.
Is this a typo?
Not a typo.
Thanks for the clarification, John, and my apology to Brian for introducing more confusion than necessary. For the record, I have two Peak1, Feather 400, Model 400B (400B701C) stoves, and they are the best single burner Coleman stoves I own. I hope you enjoy yours as much, Brian.
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Just to add more confusion, the 508 uses the earlier 400 generator where the 508A & 508 B use the latter. The 533 also uses the latter generator. Part numbers are different for the 508 A/B and 533, but they are interchangeable.

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I have both 400 Peak 1 and 400B Peak1Feather. Easy way to tell 'em apart: The 400 Is turd brown, the 400B is black. Love 'em both, the B is my goto kayak camping stove.
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To follow-up Willy's post:
400, 400A and 508 (and possibly the 576, but I haven't tried it) use the same generator ( I have multiples of the 400 and 400a, one 508 and one 576) - This is the one with the tip cleaner lever with black knob built into the generator.

Feather 400 (400B), 440, 442 Dual Fuel, 3024 (and 3024 X-cursion), 442 Exponent, 508A and 533 use the other newer type that does not have the tip cleaner lever with black knob built into the generator. Instead it has a thin wire with crimped hook which is the tip cleaner.

When all of the 400/400A/508 generators disappear, one could get a beat up, 400B or newer stove and swap the valve and use the newer-style generators. Since Coleman just made that Japanese export 400B stove only two years ago, I would think that the newer generators would still be available somewhere.

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I looked at the bay and can't believe the prices of the gens and NIB stoves. $99 for the gens and up to $150 for NIB stoves. It's tempting me to sell my NIB 400A.
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JimL wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:37 am I looked at the bay and can't believe the prices of the gens and NIB stoves. $99 for the gens and up to $150 for NIB stoves. It's tempting me to sell my NIB 400A.
I agree Jim, it is tempting to sell my spare 400/400A generators, too. The prices are crazy. YIKES! I mean, am I realistically every going to need that many more generators any more? It's just that every time I sell some parts a couple months later I see something for sale that I could have fixed with the parts I - HAD - but sold. I saw some M-1942 MODs missing the pump, however, in the last 18 months I sold the three spares I had. DOH! :-)
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Yeah, parts can be hard to part with as you never know when that one part will be needed. In my case, I only have the NIB stove and no other parts for it.
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BrianP wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:05 am Hey, thanks for the info Kansas_John! I guess I will be submitting another order to OCP!

Poor thing had a seized pump, split filler cap gasket, missing o-ring, and quite a clogged generator...I think the previous owner took it scuba diving with him.

A great project now the snows have come!
- Seized pump - Is the shaft bent?
- Split filler cap gasket - make one from some inner tube rubber cut to fit.
- Missing o-ring. - probably have to order that.
- Clogged generator - Have you tried taking off the generator and blowing carburetor cleaner thru it? Maybe give it a soak in acetone before blowing carb cleaner thru it?
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BillHoo wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:47 pm
BrianP wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:05 am Hey, thanks for the info Kansas_John! I guess I will be submitting another order to OCP!

Poor thing had a seized pump, split filler cap gasket, missing o-ring, and quite a clogged generator...I think the previous owner took it scuba diving with him.

A great project now the snows have come!
- Seized pump - Is the shaft bent?
- Split filler cap gasket - make one from some inner tube rubber cut to fit.
- Missing o-ring. - probably have to order that.
- Clogged generator - Have you tried taking off the generator and blowing carburetor cleaner thru it? Maybe give it a soak in acetone before blowing carb cleaner thru it?
Uh, no. Inner tube rubber is NOT fuel resistant. I use Buna-N or Viton for cap gaskets.
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My bad, I had just seen a youtube video where someone made a cap gasket from a piece of innertube.

Thanks for the insight!
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