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[1952hunter]

Hi my name is Brian this is my first post on here i’ve always been into lanterns I am not a huge collector don’t laugh but I only have one it’s a 1952 green I will have to post a picture of it I have my eye on a 1952 red black band .. But just recently I found something very cool and seen them before but never this nice I thought I would share what I have found in contemplating on buying.. Maybe some of you could tell me a little bit about them

[BSAGuy]

Hello and welcome, Brian. Great to have you here on the CCF. Those are Coleman lamps. They run on the same fuel and same principle as the Coleman lanterns which you have probably seen. These lamps were made starting in the late teens and were used primarily in rural areas where electricity was non-existent or spotty.

Others can help you ID the specific models and ages of the lamps.

[74HARLEY]

Welcome from Washington! You won't be sorry to join in with the "Lamp loons"
Build some shelves while you can....

[hikerduane]

Welcome. Buy them! CQ models look like.
Duane

[Tgarner01]

@SteveRetherford is a lamp loon that could help you identify

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=Tgarner01 userid=6974212 postid=1312464404]@SteveRetherford is a lamp loon that could help you identify[/QUOTE]
thanks for the heads up they have a pretty good price tag on them but not sure if that’s still a good deal or not They are trying to get 180 apiece

[Tgarner01]

Well I'd probably pay that... But I don't remember ever being called smart either... They sure look like correct Coleman shades to me.

[SteveRetherford]

only the shade on the left is a coleman

[arizonacamper]

Welcome from Southern Arizona. We are a bunch of enablers here so you can't blame us if you have to all of a sudden build shelves for your expanding collection.?
Shawn

[JimL]

Welcome to the forum from north Jersey.

At those prices, I suggest passing on the one in the first picture. That shade, although it might be able to take the heat, it's for an electric lamp. I don't know what you call that frilly top, but that's the giveaway. CQ lamps are not expensive, but shades can be, especially shades that Coleman sold.

[Coldwaterpaddler]

Welcome from Colorado. Concerning the lamps, the lamp itself isn't typically what drives the price, it's those darn glass shades! I had a QuickLite lamp for 6 months before I found an original glass shade. I have/had another two (sold one a few months ago) and haven't found a shade for them yet. But, the hunt is part of the fun. Enjoy!

[D421]

Welcome. Leave while you can.
Dominic

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=Coldwaterpaddler userid=4288663 postid=1312468244]Welcome from Colorado. Concerning the lamps, the lamp itself isn't typically what drives the price, it's those darn glass shades! I had a QuickLite lamp for 6 months before I found an original glass shade. I have/had another two (sold one a few months ago) and haven't found a shade for them yet. But, the hunt is part of the fun. Enjoy!
yes that’s what it appears that the shades are the hard part ..how many different Original shades did they make For those style of lamps

[drkillemquick]

https://terry-marsh.com/coleman-us-lamps-3-after-the-mid-1920s/

Here is a good place to start looking at shades!
Maybe a bit pricey but that is my favourite coleman shade and if you can afford it I don't see them everyday!

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=1952hunter userid=7322926 postid=1312469180]

yes that’s what it appears that the shades are the hard part ..how many different Original shades did they make For those style of lamps
yeah I did come across this in my searching Not sure if the one on the right is an original shade I definitely have seen the one on the left and the one in the single picture I also have not seen but I think I’ve been told that that was not original

[JosephDurham]

Welcome aboard!

[Jayhawksr]

Hey Brian, welcome from Maryland.

[Smudge]

Greetings and welcome to CCF.

[JimL]

[QUOTE username=1952hunter userid=7322926 postid=1312469676]

yeah I did come across this in my searching Not sure if the one on the right is an original shade I definitely have seen the one on the left and the one in the single picture I also have not seen but I think I’ve been told that that was not original
The shade on the right looks like one you'd find everywhere that Aladdin lamps are sold. Who knows if it's old, and who cares since they're still made? It the shade on the lamp on the left that's desirable.

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=JimL userid=3932848 postid=1312472131]

The shade on the right looks like one you'd find everywhere that Aladdin lamps are sold. Who knows if it's old, and who cares since they're still made? It the shade on the lamp on the left that's desirable.
thanks next question is are they dated on the bottom like lanterns are obviously I did not pick these up and look at the bottom of them the one on the right has a shinier base I’m guessing just because it was more taken care of if I got the owner to switch shades so the good shade was on the shiny bottom would that be a bad thing just have the best of both Or is year more desirable than finish

[12057dave]

Hello Brian from Ohio. You have a great start going there. Good for you!

[Gasman64]

, Brian, from Pennsylvania!

[10gage]

[QUOTE username=1952hunter userid=7322926 postid=1312472505]

thanks next question is are they dated on the bottom like lanterns are obviously I did not pick these up and look at the bottom of them the one on the right has a shinier base I’m guessing just because it was more taken care of if I got the owner to switch shades so the good shade was on the shiny bottom would that be a bad thing just have the best of both Or is year more desirable than finishthey are not usually dated. Some of the later ones are. It’s the components that make up the lamp that will get you in the ballpark of a date. The one on the left is 1919-1920 has a taller handle but slightly shorter font, the middle at first glance looks like the one on the right but minus the loss of nickel it’s in the ballpark of 1922. It has markings on the bottom unlike the left one, but like the later right one. Early founts have a soldered nut on the bottom. The right one doesn’t and is marked 6/7 which is July 1926. Most Early ones have patent dates, later ones have British patent dates. Some have marked letters on the valve wheel the earliest do not.

[10gage]

The one one the right needs a new gen

[JimL]

In case you aren't aware, those lamps need an external pump. If the lamp you get does not come with a pump, you can make one very cheaply to use until you get the right pump. Personally, I'm no longer using my 'official' lamp pump, but instead, using the one discussed in this topic I posted.

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/in-need-of-a-lamp-pump-heres-a-really-quick-efficient-and-economical-diy-one-10596362?pid=1312339319

[gotac65]

Welcome to the club from North Texas!
Trust me you will find more.
Tony

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=gotac65 userid=4078389 postid=1312475598]Welcome to the club from North Texas!
Trust me you will find more.
Tony
my brother lives in Electra Texas

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=10gage userid=7011230 postid=1312473422]
they are not usually dated. Some of the later ones are. It’s the components that make up the lamp that will get you in the ballpark of a date. The one on the left is 1919-1920 has a taller handle but slightly shorter font, the middle at first glance looks like the one on the right but minus the loss of nickel it’s in the ballpark of 1922. It has markings on the bottom unlike the left one, but like the later right one. Early founts have a soldered nut on the bottom. The right one doesn’t and is marked 6/7 which is July 1926. Most Early ones have patent dates, later ones have British patent dates. Some have marked letters on the valve wheel the earliest do not.





Thanks for all the detail photos I went back and looked at them again and took a couple more photos it appears the one to the right has the old style knob and the writing on the shaft and I took a picture of the logo what appears to have a 6 6 Underneath the logo maybe somebody can tell me if that’s how you date it

[1952hunter]

Oh and by the way here’s the lantern that I have that is a 52

[gotac65]

That is a nice big hat! I very familiar with Electra, I have a son in Wichita Falls. I travel through there often en route to Colorado, Utah and Idaho.
You probably know you don't want to be around there this time of year.

Lots of knowledge on here, take advantage of it.
Tony

[10gage]

66 means June 1926.

[1952hunter]

[QUOTE username=10gage userid=7011230 postid=1312498697]66 means June 1926.
Would the lampshade with the painting on it be correct for that year

[10gage]

[QUOTE username=1952hunter userid=7322926 postid=1312501087]

Would the lampshade with the painting on it be correct for that year

that probably is but I’m no expert on anything including shades