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Murdock yard hydrant

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Anyone here have a Murdock Yard Hydrant installed on their property?

If so, what model?...and did you install it yourself or have someone else install it?



Found these to be pretty cool looking, basically just a fancy yard water spigot.

Getting ready to give a total restoration on an old model (M-75) that I purchased then install it on my property.

I know that these are practically non-existent down here in Central South Texas but are pretty common in the Northern, NorthEastern states as I understand it.

( If you have one and want to get rid of it send me a PM )

Here's a picture of a new M-75 model:
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Here's a picture of the one I am going to restore:
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That's a nice looking piece of equipment. I'm not familiar with that manufacturer. We have a few Woodford Iowa freeze proof hydrants in the yard, these Murdock units look pretty fancy compared to what I have!
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These are really cool. So do they work like a well point?
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Neat piece and I have been all over the northeast and have never seen one before.
The $750 price tag may be why.

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Looks like the one you are going to restore is a lot more ornate than the new ones.Why don't companies take pride in their products anymore? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wayne-60-Vinta ... Swtz5dCjZH

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Whitegas Extraordinaire wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:29 pm Neat piece and I have been all over the northeast and have never seen one before.
The $750 price tag may be why.
To those of you that have commented.....'Thank you for posting!"

Yes, the Murdock Yard Hydrants are expensive $$$ (at least to me). The lowest that I have seen, brand new, was $899 and up to well over $1K.

I paid $99 bucks for the one that I am going to restore.

This is just the beginning for me as far spending $ on it, rebuilding or replacing internal parts with new ones, painting, man hours, etc. then having to spend $ on parts for installing, running water lines, installing a shut-off cut valve, digging, etc. so yea it's going to take some time.

But no big rush on my part...I plan on just taking my time on it all.
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Kgam1020 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:53 pm These are really cool. So do they work like a well point?
Basically they are just a fancy looking water spigot which is connected to an existing water line. But yes they could also be connected directly to an existing water well too.

Though the difference is that these are known as "frost free" water spigots or sillcocks (as they are also known to be called).

The concept works like this:

On a standard hose spigot, when you close the valve handle, the water supply is shut off AT the spigot, which is directly at the point where the valve sits against the side of the house. On a frost free hose spigot, there is a stem that is anywhere from 4”-12” long with a washer on the end of it to shut off the water supply. So, essentially the water is being shut off 4”-12” inside of the exterior of the house. The point of this is to protect the water supply from the elements and the freezing temperatures. The line is far less likely to freeze when the water stops on the inside, in a conditioned space.

The difference with the Murdock Yard Hydrant is that the actual release valve is located down below the grounds frost-line (different parts of the nations region vary on frost-line). Around here the frost line varies from 12" inches (1ft) to 18" inches so that it won't freeze and burst. At the very bottom there is a "weep hole" as it's called, to release any existing water that is left in the hydrants pipe when shut off to disperse into the ground, again to prevent any freezing of the pipe(s).
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Lanterndude wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:56 pm
Kgam1020 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:53 pm These are really cool. So do they work like a well point?
Basically they are just a fancy looking water spigot which is connect to an existing water line. But yes they could also be connected directly to an existing water well too.

Though the difference is that these are known as "frost free" water spigots or sillcocks (as they are also known to be called).

The concept work like this:

On a standard hose spigot, the when you close the valve handle, the water supply is shut off AT the spigot, which is directly at the point where the valve sits against the side of the house. On a frost free hose spigot, there is a stem that is anywhere from 4”-12” long with a washer on the end of it to shut off the water supply. So, essentially the water is being shut off 4”-12” inside of the exterior of the house. The point of this is to protect the water supply from the elements and the freezing temperatures. The line is far less likely to freeze when the water stops on the inside, in a conditioned space.

The difference with the Murdock Yard Hydrant is that the actual release valve is located down below the grounds frost-line (different parts of the nations region vary on frost-line). Around here the frost line varies from 12" inches (1ft) to 18" inches so that it won't freeze and burst. At the very bottom there is a "weep hole" as it's called, to release any existing water that is left in the hydrants pipe when shut off to disperse into the ground, again to prevent any freezing of the pipe(s).
I do get the frost free valve idea, nearly every house in our area has them. ( new construction anyway ) I like the idea of the Murdock yard Hydrant, its really cool. Luckily your frost line is no greater than 18''.. ours is 48'' Digging piers for decks of small additions can be a pain in the rear if you don't have access to a backhoe.
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Just wanted to post an update on the restoration progress.

First phase, all paint and rust residue has been removed to reveal the bare original cast iron metal.

Second phase will be to primer and paint all external parts with oil based primer and paint for cast iron.
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Lookin good so far!
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Lanterndude wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:44 pm Just wanted to post an update on the restoration progress.

First phase, all paint and rust residue has been removed to reveal the bare original cast iron metal.

Second phase will be to primer and paint all external parts with oil based primer and paint for cast iron.

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That’s gorgeous! Nice work, would look at home in my shop or living room.

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Thanks fella's for the compliments.

When I contacted Murdock directly and inquired about the time frame of when this particular style was produced (years, etc.) and it's history Mr. Murdock himself responded and replied with the following information:

"....This M-75 hydrant looks to be from the late 1800's to early 1900's. due to the amount of "filigree" shown in both the upper stock and base. It was around 1925 when the patterns for these two pieces began to become a little less fancy and more purposeful...."

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That’s awesome!
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If anyone happen's to have a Murdock yard hydrant or even a Kupferle yard hydrant and would like to get rid of it send me a PM.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.murdockmfg.com/post-hydrants-hose-bibbs

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Just an update on “slowly-but-surely “ restoration progress on the Yard Hydrant.

All the main external parts are now painted and now just currently waiting on other internal parts to arrive to get the Yard Hydrant back its original completed state and functionality.

Still though, much needs to be done until it can actually be used.
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That looks great so far. I love seeing the transformation of cool old stuff like this.
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Thanks for the reply.

Though, those pictures really don't do it justice. Because for whatever reason, when posting them, the forum's picture setup appears to have cut off the top portion of the photo?

Don't ask me why because I don't know. :cf_idontknow:

I know for a fact that I don't have that problem, posting photos in other forums...so. :cf_idontknow:

I tried reposting the photos, etc. to correct that but it was no use. :cf_grouch:

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Nice progress so far. Looks great!
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Finally finished and ready for permanent yard installation.

The vintage (1800's-early 1900's) Murdock M-75 Yard Hydrant fully restored and fully functional.
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The hydrant came out great! Nice job.
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Y'know, the cap defeats the entire purpose of the hydrant (called a "frost hider" hereabouts). I've had to replace several heads on frost-free hydrants due to folks leaving a hose connected. A twenty-dollar vacuum breaker on the hydrant solves the problem entirely.

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Uh....yeah I do know all about leaving a cap, water hose, etc. on any frost free hydrant (or any water spigot for that reason).

The cap is only on temporarily to protect the threads on the new nozzle to prevent them from getting damaged while moving the hydrant around and during the installation process.

Also, one should "never leave a water hose connected to any type of yard hydrant or water spigot" especially during the winter.

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Thank You!
Kgam1020 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:19 pm The hydrant came out great! Nice job.

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I installed these on our hydrants: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Zurn-BFP-9- ... ccQAvD_BwE

Due to employees leaving hoses on them and letting them freeze and break. Cheap insurance!
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Thanks for the hook up!
Gunhippie wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:15 pm I installed these on our hydrants: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Zurn-BFP-9- ... ccQAvD_BwE

Due to employees leaving hoses on them and letting them freeze and break. Cheap insurance!

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