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Two completely separate transactions that came together today:
First - I posted about this the other day (https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/ ... =9&t=27617), requesting thoughts as to whether the frame and collar had been painted. It arrived today and I can confidently affirm that it has been, though whoever did it wasn't messing around. I'm going to leave it. 11/41 242B (I guess just makes it non-war time). I jsut happened to have a straightline globe looking for a partner. VEnt is in great shape, and the gasket is holding air and the pump is pumping. Fount (brass) is missing some paint. Overall, considering I got free shipping from a site I did not expect to find it on, I'm very happy.
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Next, I got this '45 Coleman M1942 from an out-of-town antique store via Facebook. I'm calling it unfired. A couple of other firsts for me an my M1942 collection: first one with the wooden knob, first wrench, first in-tact decal, and first box. Paid a lot more than I usually do for a GPA, but A) I got a lot in return and B) I'm getting to that point in my collection.
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Does this make it a Coleman 528, or is that just a coincidence? Keep in mind, most all the 52x's were Colemans military line, and 528 is not taken as far as I know.
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Oh and now I undersstand why most of these are found missing most, if not all of the decal. Taking it in and out of the can would sand it right off.
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that stove is the PRIZE !!!
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Great day Carlton!! I like the little wartime 242Bs.
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ecblanks wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:17 pm Two completely separate transactions that came together today:
First - I posted about this the other day (https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/ ... =9&t=27617), requesting thoughts as to whether the frame and collar had been painted. It arrived today and I can confidently affirm that it has been, though whoever did it wasn't messing around. I'm going to leave it. 11/41 242B (I guess just makes it non-war time). I jsut happened to have a straightline globe looking for a partner. VEnt is in great shape, and the gasket is holding air and the pump is pumping. Fount (brass) is missing some paint. Overall, considering I got free shipping from a site I did not expect to find it on, I'm very happy.
PXL_20210916_190110632.jpg

Next, I got this '45 Coleman M1942 from an out-of-town antique store via Facebook. I'm calling it unfired. A couple of other firsts for me an my M1942 collection: first one with the wooden knob, first wrench, first in-tact decal, and first box. Paid a lot more than I usually do for a GPA, but A) I got a lot in return and B) I'm getting to that point in my collection.
PXL_20210916_185956801.jpg
PXL_20210916_190024256.jpg

Does this make it a Coleman 528, or is that just a coincidence? Keep in mind, most all the 52x's were Colemans military line, and 528 is not taken as far as I know.
PXL_20210916_190005603.jpg
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Let’s get a look at the bottom of the stove fount. Hopefully it’s not nice because of a flaw in the soldering of the fount. DAMHIK
242B is spectacular too.

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Both are sweet, but as Steve stated, that stove is the prize. M-1942's are the coolest looking single burner stoves ever, but an unfired one? Well, face it, You Suck.
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Whitegas Extraordinaire wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:15 pm
ecblanks wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:17 pm Two completely separate transactions that came together today:
First - I posted about this the other day (https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/ ... =9&t=27617), requesting thoughts as to whether the frame and collar had been painted. It arrived today and I can confidently affirm that it has been, though whoever did it wasn't messing around. I'm going to leave it. 11/41 242B (I guess just makes it non-war time). I jsut happened to have a straightline globe looking for a partner. VEnt is in great shape, and the gasket is holding air and the pump is pumping. Fount (brass) is missing some paint. Overall, considering I got free shipping from a site I did not expect to find it on, I'm very happy.
PXL_20210916_190110632.jpg

Next, I got this '45 Coleman M1942 from an out-of-town antique store via Facebook. I'm calling it unfired. A couple of other firsts for me an my M1942 collection: first one with the wooden knob, first wrench, first in-tact decal, and first box. Paid a lot more than I usually do for a GPA, but A) I got a lot in return and B) I'm getting to that point in my collection.
PXL_20210916_185956801.jpg
PXL_20210916_190024256.jpg

Does this make it a Coleman 528, or is that just a coincidence? Keep in mind, most all the 52x's were Colemans military line, and 528 is not taken as far as I know.
PXL_20210916_190005603.jpg
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Let’s get a look at the bottom of the stove fount. Hopefully it’s not nice because of a flaw in the soldering of the fount. DAMHIK
242B is spectacular too.
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ecblanks wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:57 pm
Whitegas Extraordinaire wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:15 pm
ecblanks wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:17 pm Two completely separate transactions that came together today:
First - I posted about this the other day (https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/ ... =9&t=27617), requesting thoughts as to whether the frame and collar had been painted. It arrived today and I can confidently affirm that it has been, though whoever did it wasn't messing around. I'm going to leave it. 11/41 242B (I guess just makes it non-war time). I jsut happened to have a straightline globe looking for a partner. VEnt is in great shape, and the gasket is holding air and the pump is pumping. Fount (brass) is missing some paint. Overall, considering I got free shipping from a site I did not expect to find it on, I'm very happy.
PXL_20210916_190110632.jpg

Next, I got this '45 Coleman M1942 from an out-of-town antique store via Facebook. I'm calling it unfired. A couple of other firsts for me an my M1942 collection: first one with the wooden knob, first wrench, first in-tact decal, and first box. Paid a lot more than I usually do for a GPA, but A) I got a lot in return and B) I'm getting to that point in my collection.
PXL_20210916_185956801.jpg
PXL_20210916_190024256.jpg

Does this make it a Coleman 528, or is that just a coincidence? Keep in mind, most all the 52x's were Colemans military line, and 528 is not taken as far as I know.
PXL_20210916_190005603.jpg
Carlton
Let’s get a look at the bottom of the stove fount. Hopefully it’s not nice because of a flaw in the soldering of the fount. DAMHIK
242B is spectacular too.
What am I looking for?
PXL_20210916_215224529_copy_453x604.jpg
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Looks phenomenal like the rest of it!

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Lucky you!!! I've had a couple of those and never a wooden knob.

Ya gonna fire it?
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WOW! S C O R E . . . all the way around. It's nice that the bead looks good on the bottom of the M-1942 fount.
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Majicwrench wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:37 pm Lucky you!!! I've had a couple of those and never a wooden knob.

Ya gonna fire it?
Probably not; I've got others. The knob appears to also be glued.
Here's the lantern money shot. The PO sure knew what he/she was doing. Replaced the CV with the new style, but left the original pump in place. Assuming they replaced the cap gasket as well. Generator is also a replacement. And the coating on the collar, frame and ball nut is immaculate. Must be a powder coat. Only reason I know it's not original is that it looks too good ;)
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Super SCORE! Jeesh.

I sometimes forget I've found my share of awesome Coleman but...I am a bit envious, of the stove.
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Coldwaterpaddler wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:52 pm WOW! S C O R E . . . all the way around. It's nice that the bead looks good on the bottom of the M-1942 fount.
Any thoughts on the 528 observation? I saw another box on ebay, previously sold, that also has the same 528-462.
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Not sure what that 528-462 means, however, the fact that it says Coleman AND M-1942 on the box is the proof that the M-1942 MOD stoves marked C-A are in fact Coleman stoves. I know that people have questioned that in the past. The 528 thing is an interesting observation. Unfortunately, my only photos of boxes don't show that side of the box. Perhaps some members here can show boxes from other manufacturers and see if the number shows up there or if it is Coleman specific.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're thinking that Coleman assigned the M-1942 MOD a model number of 528. Is that correct? That's interesting.
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I'd be more inclined to think that's the box manufacturer's part number rather than a Coleman number. The Love Box Company appears to be still in business: https://www.yellowpagesdirectory.com/Wi ... +Inc/48751
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Coldwaterpaddler wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:32 am Not sure what that 528-462 means, however, the fact that it says Coleman AND M-1942 on the box is the proof that the M-1942 MOD stoves marked C-A are in fact Coleman stoves. I know that people have questioned that in the past. The 528 thing is an interesting observation. Unfortunately, my only photos of boxes don't show that side of the box. Perhaps some members here can show boxes from other manufacturers and see if the number shows up there or if it is Coleman specific.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're thinking that Coleman assigned the M-1942 MOD a model number of 528. Is that correct? That's interesting.
Maybe not "suggesting"... more asking. AFAIK, Coleman gave a model number to all it's models, including its military models that were not made available to the civilian market. It would follow that the '42 would also have one. Plus 528 would fall in line with the convention:
520 - Pocket stove
521 - 5000 BTU heating unit
522 - 10,000 BTU heating unit
523 - vehicle stove
524 - 40,000 BTU heating unit
525 - 20,000 BTU heating unit
526 - 5,000 BTU heating unit
527 - Dental sterilizer
528?
529?
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I also wonder if the "A" in C-A could be Aladdin; maybe a joint build Coleman-Aladdin, parts-wise, but assembled by Coleman.
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Very nice Carlton! Glad you got that 242! Those two stoves are sweet!
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Two very nice scores, especially the stove.
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I have always assumed that the "A" in "C-A" stood for Aladdin as well.

I've never seen that list of WWII products beginning with the 520. Thanks for posting that. It all makes sense from what we know, and of course, the first new post-war Coleman stove product might have been the 530. I'm not sure who would know of Coleman's designation for the M-1942 MOD was the Coleman 528.
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I was thinking the same thing, Carlton. I have a 520,521,523, 527, 528 ( if this can be confirmed ), and a 530. I'm working on a deal for a 522 and a 525 also. You're right, it would fall in line with the other models.
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ecblanks wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:38 am
Coldwaterpaddler wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:52 pm WOW! S C O R E . . . all the way around. It's nice that the bead looks good on the bottom of the M-1942 fount.
Any thoughts on the 528 observation? I saw another box on ebay, previously sold, that also has the same 528-462.
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What a pair of FUN gpa's to find!
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For me that stove would be the winner, both are cool but I am not really into stoves as the two I own I REALLY put to work with no regard to paint, burns, etc..
They are my bread and butter for emergencies and camping. So for me a stove of that calibre would be so very neat to have.
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Found these two bits of supporting evidence:
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This one is pretty clear cut. It shows a 521 stove, the owners manual showing Model 521, and the box showing that "521-477" format as seen on my M1942 box, below the manufacturer's stamp.

Next is the 526. These 2 pics were both taken from a single post on classiccampstoves, so they have to be taken together. Again, we see the 526 stove with a box showing the "526-496" pattern below the box manufacturer's stamp.
https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/c ... 526.36251/
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I'm not the type to make demonstrative declarations, but with this evidence it presents a strong argument that Coleman's build of the M1942 was indeed given the mode number 528. Would be nice to see the same type instruction manual for the M1942.
Interestingly, the box of the 520 clearly prints the words "Model No. 520"
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I have one of these that decided to leak from the bottom. Flaw in the solder. So I did the right thing and cleaned and dried out the font. Then put a drop of 290 Loctite on the spot that was leaking. Let it sit upside down and wick into the failed area.

Haven't had it leak since.
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These are great acquisitions. It shows there are still pristine examples out there. I can't help but think that more and more of these will become available in the future as we get older, unfortunately. I've also noticed coin collections available as well the last few years.
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