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We shall see if the tale of the tape(s) are accurate or not. These two lanterns came to me *free* courtesy of my lovely and brilliant niece, who teaches at a university here in Alberta that shall remain anonymous. She found them in a cabinet in a little used storage room. She asked the university admin and her faculty head, and they both told her she could do what she wanted with them. Fortunately for me, that meant give them to her dear old Uncle Kelly to see (per Miracle Max in the Princess Bride) if these lanterns are all dead, or only mostly dead. I'm willing to bet that these lanterns are in fact, only mostly dead, which is the same thing as slightly alive.

If they are, in fact, all dead, there's only one thing to do...go through their pockets for loose change...or, loose parts :D

This lantern restoration is a truly noble cause...truuueeee looovvvveee.

For those who don't understand this post...please do yourself a favor and watch The Princess Bride (1987)

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Good for you Kelly. And you have a pretty sharp Niece there too for remembering her dear old Uncle😎.

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That’s funny. Nice acquisition by your niece.

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So, I’ll pretend I just went and watched that. Uhh, they’re for sure mostly dead.
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Leviticus_Tomethreus wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:00 pm So, I’ll pretend I just went and watched that. Uhh, they’re for sure mostly dead.
I agree, Levi - and you really SHOULD watch it - it's a classic.
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12057dave wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:59 pm Good for you Kelly. And you have a pretty sharp Niece there too for remembering her dear old Uncle😎.
I do...she's a gem, and a geek like me!
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Ridge_Runner wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:59 pm That’s funny. Nice acquisition by your niece.

I’m going with mostly alive!
So am I - and isn't it great to find rescue projects like this? They might have been thrown out!
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CoolPro wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:04 pm
Ridge_Runner wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:59 pm That’s funny. Nice acquisition by your niece.

I’m going with mostly alive!
So am I - and isn't it great to find rescue projects like this? They might have been thrown out!
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Both of those look great. I'll bet neither of them take much work to get them running again. Cap gasket and oil the pump. That might be it. Hopefully they didn't store them with old rug in them for decades. You have a great niece.
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Sure looks like that little 200A is still breathing to me. But their one of my favorites anyway.. I do not know anything about the 321 but likely only mostly dead and worth a little resuscitation attempt
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I think both probably have the common issues and will be back running soon.
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They were slightly wounded but classified as KIA by incompetent battlefield operators. They look like they can be "arisen". Organ donors abound. :P
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one of my favorite movies. I vote they are just mostly dead.
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Those lanterns appear to be pretty good; they probably won't take much at all. Some oil for the pump cup on the 200, and the Easi-Lite may need the O-ring kit (from OCP), and of course, mantle and globe. Nice gifts from your niece.

"Mostly dead?" Inconceivable!!
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Have fun storming the castle!
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"I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for now, rest well and dream of large women." This is a great line in the movie. I go with "mostly dead"
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That’s awesome! Nice your niece thought of you when she saw them, and saving two nice lanterns from the trash!
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Inconceivable!
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For the '70 200A - the answer is - mostly dead/slightly alive!

Checked the burner assembly, generator, air tube, and fuel cap gasket (all good). Moved on to the pump....which was dry, and had the leather cup installed in reverse. Corrected that and oiled the leather and reinstalled - result was blow back. Removed the check valve (without incident) and it was clean, even pristine. However, taking a look down the pump tube revealed the issue:

Thanks so much to tgarner01 for the advice on how to proceed with the pump tube mess! An hour carb cleaner soak, scrub, another hour cc soak, scrub, overnight evapo-rust, scrub - cleaned up sufficiently to blow it out, reinstall the check valve, pressure up, CF fill, mantle tie, and light up!

Inconceivable! Next miracle will be the mostly dead '79 321B
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Well done Kelly! Hard to beat a good running 200A!
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Very nice. It looks to be very much alive again to me. Nice work. Are you going to keep the "doesn't work" tags with them?
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Nice fettle! Glad it’s in and running.
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It’s aliiiiive. I bet it’s sibling will be as well soon enough. Great deal and a good job from you niece
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Ta da!
One down one to go.

Maybe "Don't Work" tags could be applied to our lanterns to discourage potential theft? L.o.l..
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rob_pontius wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:57 pm Very nice. It looks to be very much alive again to me. Nice work. Are you going to keep the "doesn't work" tags with them?
For sure. As a reminder to myself, if nothing else.
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Vintageish wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:58 pm Ta da!
One down one to go.

Maybe "Don't Work" tags could be applied to our lanterns to discourage potential theft? L.o.l..
Great idea!
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For the '79 321B - mostly dead = slightly alive!

Checked the burner assembly, generator, air tube, and fuel cap gasket. All was well except for the G3A generator, which was clogged and sticky. Disassembled and cleaned up in a warm mild acid bath and reinstalled.

Moved on to the pump....as with the 200A, it was dry, but the leather cup was installed correctly, unlike the 200A had been. Oiled the leather and reinstalled - result, as with the 200A, was blow back. Removed the check valve (without incident) and it was gummed up, as was the pump tube. Cleaned the pump tube in a similar procedure to the 200A. Gave the check valve a warm acid bath and restored function.

Reinstalled the check valve, pressured up great, CF fill, mantle tie, and light up!

Inconceivable! Again!

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That's awesome. 2 more saved from the landfill.
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I knew it would live again!
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Real nice work on those two, Kelly! Even the pictures hurt my eyes!
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Lookin’ good all lit up there, Kelly! Nice saves for sure.

That 321 is especially blinding for just a parts lantern 😉
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Nice work Kelly!
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Thanks, everyone. Two more renewed lights to drive away the darkness.

Interesting how this thread has turned into a quote-a-thon from Princess Bride! Here's a couple more...

“Why do you wear a mask and hood?"
"I think everybody will in the near future," was the man in black's reply.

The Princess Bride: "We'll never survive."
Westley: "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has."

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"Are you the sort of person who would put the electrified lantern into his own garage, or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put that lantern into his own garage, because only a great fool would turn on what he is given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the lantern in front of you. But you would
have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the lantern in front of me."
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49tandc wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:37 pm "Are you the sort of person who would put the electrified lantern into his own garage, or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put that lantern into his own garage, because only a great fool would turn on what he is given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the lantern in front of you. But you would
have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the lantern in front of me."
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