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Never give up hope

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Today is a good day for me. I received a call from my local police department this morning and was told that I could come and pick up a handgun that was stolen many many years ago. The gun was recovered in 2015 they found it in the back of a toilet. That same year they recovered a stolen M1 Garand rifle that was mine as well. I inquired about that when I went to pick up the handgun but I was told that the ATF purchased that in a gun buy sting. I was told by the police department that the ATF would have to release that gun to me. so what happened about three hours later I received a phone call from my local PD and they said that it was a released back to them and I could pick it up at my convenience. The M1 was made in February of 1945 and possibly in Service in the Pacific Theater but most certainly was in Service in Korea. I had almost given up hope about these guns ever being returned especially in today's political climate.
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Nice historical M1 to return to you. Hope it is in good shape.
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that is awesome!
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Well to quote someone more famous than me " The best battle Implement ever devised" General George Patton
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Great to hear you got them back an original M1 with matching numbers are rare.
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Glad to hear you got your guns back.
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OK, I'll keep waiting. stolen 1997
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That’s great news! My ex BIL has an M1 carbine that was produced by General Motors in Flint, MI.
My son lives in a rural area and has a good sized property. The put an access road in along side his property and built a subdivision behind him. Then they constructed a rain water retention pond behind his property. A few years ago his boys were out playing by the pond and discovered a bunch of tools. Chainsaws, leaf blowers, generators, etc. My son called the sheriff’s office and they came and picked all of the stuff up.
A year later my son got a call from the sheriff’s office to come pick all of the stuff up because nobody had reported any of it stolen.
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Great news Greg!
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GREAT news Greg!!

Short version of my similar story - had a long standing run-in with a cranky old man (and I am one of those now) related to drainage off of a roadway onto his property. Bad attitude between us went on for years. At some point he came upon a group of kids trespassing, and he had his pistol with him. He could get pretty cranky and one of the kids called the cops. Kids got sent home and the cops kept the pistol. Several years after that we were (still) dealing with our issues, and he asked if I knew the Sheriff. Said yes. He asked if I could ask him (Sheriff) to get his pistol back (family heirloom story). Said sure, and it was returned to him about a month later. We were best of pals after that until he passed away a few years later.
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That's great to hear and yes a little amazing.

I have to ask, were they registered in your name? Im interested because a friend of my dad had all of his guns stolen and were recovered fairly quick. Problem was none were registered at all. Most were his fathers and grandfathers. Cops said he had no legal claim to them even though he had an inventory with serial numbers, atleast for the ones that were serialized. We always figured the cops got to add to their collections, also the best reason I've seen for registering the old ones.
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bowenstudios wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:28 pm That's great to hear and yes a little amazing.

I have to ask, were they registered in your name? Im interested because a friend of my dad had all of his guns stolen and were recovered fairly quick. Problem was none were registered at all. Most were his fathers and grandfathers. Cops said he had no legal claim to them even though he had an inventory with serial numbers, atleast for the ones that were serialized. We always figured the cops got to add to their collections, also the best reason I've seen for registering the old ones.
As of right now the United States does not have a gun registration but all of them were mine and listed in the police report when it happened. The Police Department is supposed to call you and release the guns to you when all of their investigations are done because it is your property.
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So glad that worked out for you, Greg. All's well that ends well.
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Nice that you got them back!

A guy I worked with had his stolen, (a couple of them did actually) but I remember one getting one recovered.

I've never had anything recovered we didn't recover ourselves (Fishing poles in a public campground... ), but thankfully no guns stolen. (knocks on wood) Stereo and CB from a rental, truck vandalized for its custom dash, My moms leaf blower from in front of my garage, My tools, box and all, from a friends car who had borrowed them. An Eisenhower Jacket at the race track, Not remembering anything else big...
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good to hear.
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sailman wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:52 pm
bowenstudios wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:28 pm That's great to hear and yes a little amazing.

I have to ask, were they registered in your name? Im interested because a friend of my dad had all of his guns stolen and were recovered fairly quick. Problem was none were registered at all. Most were his fathers and grandfathers. Cops said he had no legal claim to them even though he had an inventory with serial numbers, atleast for the ones that were serialized. We always figured the cops got to add to their collections, also the best reason I've seen for registering the old ones.
As of right now the United States does not have a gun registration but all of them were mine and listed in the police report when it happened. The Police Department is supposed to call you and release the guns to you when all of their investigations are done because it is your property.
I understand we don't require registration, I'd say this was mostly a shady deal with the cops involved. Basically he filed the report, with the numbers and inventory. They notified him that they had been recovered but that they couldn't release them to him because he had no FFL paperwork of any kind. If he had paperwork it would prove they were his and they would have released those guns, but without it he was merely reporting a crime happened. Kind of like I can report someone stole a car, but without the registration in my name I can't receive it back if recovered. Supposedly the only option they had was to destroy them, I'm sure they are in gun safes somewhere though. But maybe not.

I'm just glad that you got yours back. There are a couple guns that would break my heart if I lost them.
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Good For You Greg , Great Day INDEED !
Always remember, if we only save stuff & don't use the stuff , then were only Flaunting our stuff :cf_2cents: & Every Child Needs At Least 1 Fishing Rod 🏕 Howdy - Central Pa
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That's great news, Greg! No doubt you wrote them off, figuring they were long gone, but what a great surprise that is!
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bowenstudios wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:25 am
sailman wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:52 pm
bowenstudios wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:28 pm That's great to hear and yes a little amazing.

I have to ask, were they registered in your name? Im interested because a friend of my dad had all of his guns stolen and were recovered fairly quick. Problem was none were registered at all. Most were his fathers and grandfathers. Cops said he had no legal claim to them even though he had an inventory with serial numbers, atleast for the ones that were serialized. We always figured the cops got to add to their collections, also the best reason I've seen for registering the old ones.
As of right now the United States does not have a gun registration but all of them were mine and listed in the police report when it happened. The Police Department is supposed to call you and release the guns to you when all of their investigations are done because it is your property.
I understand we don't require registration, I'd say this was mostly a shady deal with the cops involved. Basically he filed the report, with the numbers and inventory. They notified him that they had been recovered but that they couldn't release them to him because he had no FFL paperwork of any kind. If he had paperwork it would prove they were his and they would have released those guns, but without it he was merely reporting a crime happened. Kind of like I can report someone stole a car, but without the registration in my name I can't receive it back if recovered. Supposedly the only option they had was to destroy them, I'm sure they are in gun safes somewhere though. But maybe not.

I'm just glad that you got yours back. There are a couple guns that would break my heart if I lost them.
In this case what I would have done would have been to go and seek the advice of a lawyer. This does sounds kind of fishy to me. Anyway I picked up the M1 Garand this morning and it wasn't very pretty so tomorrow it's off to the gunsmith. It's covered in about 50 to 65% rust I'm going to get him to just conserve the rifle and not restore it because it was made in 45 and it wasn't you when I got it. When I purchase the rifle it had about 75 to 80% of the parkerizing left on the rifle and more than likely it had been Arsenal reconditioned in its life at some point.
it's not like it was a numbers matching gun anyway.
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