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Back to working on the He Man today. The vent is pretty rough, with lots of rust.

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I know from sad experience that using an acid to remove the rust is an absolute no-no. I don't have Evaporust and I don't have the patience for molasses.

So electrolysis it is:

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The hard part is getting a good electrical connection to the vent. None of the chipped an rusted areas are where it would be handy to connect to. My first though was to stick a piece of wire to a spot using my wire-feed welder. I cleaned the rust off a little patch of rust inside the vent and gave it a try. Of course, now the problem is that there's no place to attach the ground of the welder, so I sat the vent on a steel plate and grounded that, hoping to get enough of a capacitive ground to let me get the wire welded to the vent. No luck at all.

Next try: I found an old lead with a small alligator clip and just managed to get that clipped to the clean spot I'd made, and it seems to be working! The heavy copper wire is just there to support the vent and keep it from sliding into my anode.

Update in a hour or so.

Meanwhile, I'm painting the frame, baseplate and collar today. The frame will get Rusto VHT silver and the collar and baseplate gloss black. I haven't decided on a paint color for the fount--far too pitted for practical plating--but I'm leaning towards a two-tone brown.
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How interesting. No matter what, if that thing fires off, you will be a legend
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Gunhippie wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:12 pm Back to working on the He Man today. The vent is pretty rough, with lots of rust.

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I know from sad experience that using an acid to remove the rust is an absolute no-no. I don't have Evaporust and I don't have the patience for molasses.

So electrolysis it is:

Image

The hard part is getting a good electrical connection to the vent. None of the chipped an rusted areas are where it would be handy to connect to. My first though was to stick a piece of wire to a spot using my wire-feed welder. I cleaned the rust off a little patch of rust inside the vent and gave it a try. Of course, now the problem is that there's no place to attach the ground of the welder, so I sat the vent on a steel plate and grounded that, hoping to get enough of a capacitive ground to let me get the wire welded to the vent. No luck at all.

Next try: I found an old lead with a small alligator clip and just managed to get that clipped to the clean spot I'd made, and it seems to be working! The heavy copper wire is just there to support the vent and keep it from sliding into my anode.

Update in a hour or so.

Meanwhile, I'm painting the frame, baseplate and collar today. The frame will get Rusto VHT silver and the collar and baseplate gloss black. I haven't decided on a paint color for the fount--far too pitted for practical plating--but I'm leaning towards a two-tone brown.
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Meanwhile, I'm getting some paint on things.

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Forgot today is Easter so no running down to the hardware store for a can of paint. Searched through my rack of paints, I saw the Antique Copper from my 426A tank repaint. Unfortunately, it was in one of those stupid trigger cans, so I got one thin pass on the fount before the tip clogged irredeemably. Good thing it's relatively shiny brass underneath, but still looks pretty splotchy.
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I'd call the electrolysis a success! Atomic hydrogen to the rescue!

Compare to the "before" pic above:

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It's an interesting experiment in that much of the surface of the vent is non-conducting porcelain enamel. The rust in contact with bare metal is pretty much reduced to a black dust, but the rust stains on the enamel aren't touched.

A few minutes with some 0000 steel wool, and:

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Even the inside of the vent looks pretty good, considering:

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I wish I had a "before" pic of the underside, as it was pretty uniformly rust-orange, except where it was soot black.

I wonder if the fount is dry enough to heat cure?
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Working on the valve while the paint cooks.

I'm looking at the valve square (Akron, right?), which is pretty dull and dead looking:

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And thinking that, with all the plastic in our world today, someone should make a plastic restorer for old, dried out stuff like that.

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Oh, yeah--that stuff.

It doesn't look like brand-new for sure, but a lot better.
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I feel like I've made some real progress today!

Oops! I just realized that I had the clocking just a little off, which was preventing the frame from fitting into two little notches in the collar.

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That's better.

My recipe for gloss black high-temp paint is Rusto High Temp BBQ flat black with a High Temp clear coat. This time, I decided to skip the clear coat as the flat does a better job of concealing the pitting on the collar and base.

And I even got the lighting door in the base working again! Lots of heat and oil and some tapping with a block of wood did the trick.
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Looking good Timm! I do like the look of a copper colored fount with a green vent.
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Thanks, all!

Outlaw: Flame on is a bit off still. When the stores open again tomorrow, I'm going to get some more Antique Copper, scuff-sand the first coat and get a good, full cover on it.

Sweet lookin' 200A, Vance! The green and gold just kind of popped into my mind while going through the paint I have--and maybe a few years in Boy Scouts had something to do with it.
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It’s looking good Timm!
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I never thought electrolysis would work on the vent. Cool. I will try it on my 220b rebuild. Great project, thanks for posting, the before and after are extreme.
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Paul--It had a Coleman 220 globe on it. I'm not sure what the original was. I'll be running it with the 220 if it runs.

Like I mentioned, getting an electrical connection to the vent is the challenge. Most vents like this will have the porcelain (an excellent insulator) missing around the vent stud, bit this didn't. If the porcelain is missing there, grind/sand some rust off for good contact and run a nut and bolt through the hole for a terminal.

This was the first time I've tried electrolysis on a vent but I'll definitely be using it a lot in the future! Better living through electrochemistry!
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Looks great Timm!
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That looks great Timm. Your vent recovery has inspired me to have another look at the two piece vent on my He-Man.
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Looking good Tim! I'm liking the electrolysis on the vent idea. Look forward to the finished product.
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Wow! Now that is some progress, Timm. Chugging along nicely!
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Super cool! Can't wait to see some fire!
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I can't believe the transformation that's taking place!

>>Unfortunately, it was in one of those stupid trigger cans, so I got one thin pass on the fount before the tip clogged irredeemably.

Any chance one of your other cans has a tip you could swap in? Assuming you'd like to use up what you already have on hand.
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Looking good. I was wondering how this one would go. I’ve passed on several He mans because the ones I come across are half dust and spiders.
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Amazing transformation for sure.
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Wow Timm! Mighty impressive. I’m quite surprised at how the vent turned out. Can’t wait to see an explosion or a steady burn in some mantles!
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Hey Timm, probably a Mcbeth globe with a lighting hole? Great job!..campinut
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Lookin goood Timm! The vent came out great and I do like the color choice on the fount.
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Gunhippie wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:03 pm
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And thinking that, with all the plastic in our world today, someone should make a plastic restorer for old, dried out stuff like that.

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Have a look at 303 Aerospace Protectant. Used in the vintage car world for many years.

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