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q77 vs q99 vs r55

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Just curious, with the price of the q77 being so cheap compared to the q99/r55. Is there any reason they shouldn't be used? I need 5 or so gens for some projects (327/air o lite and a few others). Yes I am aware it doesn't have a cleaning rod. But not too worried as they wont be my go to lanterns.


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No reason that I'm aware of. I've put r55's in regular users before. But I've also done well with the others. If the fount and fuel is clean you shouldn't have any issues
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Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
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25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
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ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
I could lie and say I knew for sure but I better let the experts answer that. I think they did but not positive.
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ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
Coleman's transition from the Q99 to R55 was pretty late... 1936-37 I believe... Anything will be appropriate and look fine... I prefer the Q99 for looks and function believe it or not... I find Many R55s pulsey...
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Tgarner01 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm
ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
Coleman's transition from the Q99 to R55 was pretty late... 1936-37 I believe... Anything will be appropriate and look fine... I prefer the Q99 for looks and function believe it or not... I find Many R55s pulsey...
Toby, when did the Q77 come into play and did some lanterns come with them originally?
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Tgarner01 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm
ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
Coleman's transition from the Q99 to R55 was pretty late... 1936-37 I believe... Anything will be appropriate and look fine... I prefer the Q99 for looks and function believe it or not... I find Many R55s pulsey...
Where were the q77 used? Thanks for the info I had no idea. So my 1/32 should be a q99
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25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:31 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm
ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
Coleman's transition from the Q99 to R55 was pretty late... 1936-37 I believe... Anything will be appropriate and look fine... I prefer the Q99 for looks and function believe it or not... I find Many R55s pulsey...
Toby, when did the Q77 come into play and did some lanterns come with them originally?
ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:32 pm
Tgarner01 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm
ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
Coleman's transition from the Q99 to R55 was pretty late... 1936-37 I believe... Anything will be appropriate and look fine... I prefer the Q99 for looks and function believe it or not... I find Many R55s pulsey...
Where were the q77 used? Thanks for the info I had no idea. So my 1/32 should be a q99
Guys I'm certainly no expert on them, everything I've learned about early Coleman has come from Larry... Here is a recent thread similar to this that has some good info by Larry himself... Read it through to post 12 I believe...

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19797&p=265208&hilit
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Tgarner01 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm
ak74u137 wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:20 pm
25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 4:19 pm Other than the Q99 being original to the lantern, I see no disadvantage to using a Q77. If originality or the convenience of a tip cleaner is not important to you, then a Q77 seems like a great option to save some decent $$.
Would the 327 and air o lite come with q99 from factory? Trying to think of my others of the top of my head.
Coleman's transition from the Q99 to R55 was pretty late... 1936-37 I believe... Anything will be appropriate and look fine... I prefer the Q99 for looks and function believe it or not... I find Many R55s pulsey...
Yeah I believe by the end of 37 everything came with a r55.

When Matt was compiling data for the generator list I did some testing on r55's. I found the old NOS r55's ran good and consistent. R55 made after 1980 is a crap shoot. With the exception of the Amish made r55's. I've managed to hang onto a few of the old ones but will likely never use them for a couple of reasons. Like you said the q99 is a good generator. It's also easy to rebuild. And one of those old r55's in a box will pay for a couple q99's. Lol
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Nothing is as easy to rebuild as the 77.
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Tigerfans2 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:34 pm Nothing is as easy to rebuild as the 77.
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That's what I figured. No pricker could be a pain but cleaning and doing a rebuild would be easy and last forever. For 9$ each vs 25$ its a no brainer for lanterns that wont be a dedicated runner.
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The main thing I've learned using several Q99s, Q77s and a torchlite, is DO NOT use Coleman fuel! Honest! That green stuff they put in the fuel will gum your gen tip up while it's sitting unused. I doubt any 80+ year old fuel valve shuts off 100%, and any slow seep of fuel through the gen results in the tip clogged with the sticky green residue Coleman fuel leaves behind. Cleaning the gen tip of a Quickie isn't that big of a deal, but a 316--that's tearing down about half the lantern to get to the tip.

I use only nice, clear Crown in my non-tip cleaners now and life is much better. Crown leaves no residue behind when it evaporates.

PS: The level of leak I'm talking about is not noticeable. Not even by smell. But it's real. You don't have to leave the lantern pressurized for this to happen--changes in temperature and air pressure will do the job.
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