What to do with that stinky old fuel?

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What to do with that stinky old fuel?

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Well give it to your thirstiest GPA of course 😁

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These cans will probably be worth me then me someday... But they will go in the pile with the rest of the scrap 😉

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It even burns!! Woohoo!!

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Have a good day everybody! Hopefully it's not as wet and nasty as it is here in SW Missouri.
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Haha. Of course it burns! It is indeed nasty here Toby. 😢
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Why is it stinky? I thought it last forever basically? All I’ve ever used is the 12 40 year old cans I found in my uncle’s shop.
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that sucker has a nasty drinking habit.
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We had rain yesterday, but today it's 91 and sunny with a glorious breeze keeping me comfortable. Nice day to knock off early... again.

I like your waste fuel burner. I usually dump the stuff in a 237A. It seems to burn anything without any complaints.
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25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm Why is it stinky? I thought it last forever basically? All I’ve ever used is the 12 40 year old cans I found in my uncle’s shop.
Rough smelling or suspect looking fuel out of acquired old appliances is one source of stuff not desired for a favorite lantern or stove.
Rinsing founts out with clean fuel leaves some dirtier stuff that can be strained , but is still not the greatest quality remaining.

I nabbed a can that has been outside a very long time.
Was surprised it smelled great. (Not huffing it , just took a whiff.)
Not really interested in it for a pet lantern.
But I'll use it to rinse founts . And eventually probably burn it in a heat plant like the O.P. is doing.
Depending on what I rinse out of the heat plants fount. It looks pretty tarry....
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Nice photos Toby! I usually put filtered older fuel in my 426, burns it no problem. Its been raining here in western mass for a since Sunday afternoon. I think we have a little break tomorrow..
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25_502s wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm Why is it stinky? I thought it last forever basically? All I’ve ever used is the 12 40 year old cans I found in my uncle’s shop.
Jason I'm not sure why it smelled old... They were both opened cans... Maybe been stored in a non climate controlled environment?... Still good and clear, just had that old smell and the HGP didn't mind 😉
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I use a 220 to burn off old fuel. If getting rid of old two-stroke pre-mix, I'll mix it 50/50 with RUG. Perhaps I no longer have a lot of respect for 220's. :)
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JimL wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:12 pm I use a 220 to burn off old fuel. If getting rid of old two-stroke pre-mix, I'll mix it 50/50 with RUG. Perhaps I no longer have a lot of respect for 220's. :)
I've got a couple 220's I use for the same thing! That's funny. Lol. I didn't have that problem till I moved somewhere I didn't have an outside fire pit. I grabbed my two worst 220 beaters with no holes in the fount, made a couple coils for gen innards and burn away. I actually need to find the box those are in because I've got some fuel to burn.
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I dump fuel from found GPAs, CF, RUG, Kero and alcohol into cans and give it to Sandman to burn in his HGP
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There are no guarantees an old can of Coleman fuel hasn't been re-filled at some point with UG or K1 or 2 stroke mix, or golly knows what. CF has a slight blueish-green tint, and little to no odor, reminiscent of "lighter fluid". It does not sour or turn to gum or varnish.
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Stovie wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:12 pm There are no guarantees an old can of Coleman fuel hasn't been re-filled at some point with UG or K1 or 2 stroke mix, or golly knows what. CF has a slight blueish-green tint, and little to no odor, reminiscent of "lighter fluid". It does not sour or turn to gum or varnish.
I agree... Altho it will get a foul smell if it's been opened to the atmosphere for too long... Maybe evaporation? I've had many old lanterns and stoves with clear fuel have this smell I speak of... These two cans had it so the HGP will get it...
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This

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is stinky old fuel! That stuff looks pristine!

PS: Some 2-stroke oil is a greenish-blue color. 2 stroke has not worked well in lanterns in my experience. Constant spinning of the cleaner lever just to keep it going. I looked closer at the somewhat rusty top of the CF can I'd poured it from and sure enough, scratched into the top, faintly, were the words "Stihl chainsaw".
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Colin Fletcher, in his book The Complete Walker, once allowed that "due to an improbable series of events" that the Sigg bottle he carried along on a hike contained not CF, but 2-stroke chainsaw mix. He was not a happy camper, but it did burn.

I'm not persuaded there is much of an intermediate state with Naptha. I've found old stoves with decades old fuel in them that is perfectly fine. If it's exposed to the atmosphere, I think it pretty much just evaporates. It has almost no residue, which is why it is used for panel wipe, brake cleaning and all sorts of things like that.
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Stovie wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:18 pm Colin Fletcher, in his book The Complete Walker, once allowed that "due to an improbable series of events" that the Sigg bottle he carried along on a hike contained not CF, but 2-stroke chainsaw mix. He was not a happy camper, but it did burn.

I'm not persuaded there is much of an intermediate state with Naptha. I've found old stoves with decades old fuel in them that is perfectly fine. If it's exposed to the atmosphere, I think it pretty much just evaporates. It has almost no residue, which is why it is used for panel wipe, brake cleaning and all sorts of things like that.
Colin Fletcher was probably just running a Svea, Optimus or Primus stove. Those are pretty forgiving about fuel, but he probably had to replace the wick after running 2-stroke.
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Possibly a Svea 123, but the incident was definitely mentioned in one of the later editions (likely the 4th) and by that time it was possible he was using something more (for him) more exotic, can't recall. He tested out a great number of stoves in later years.
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Nice way to burn of the nasty stuff, Toby. I’m still thinking a huge wind chime made out of empty fuel cans is the way to repurpose those tins! 😁
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>>Nice way to burn of the nasty stuff, Toby. I’m still thinking a huge wind chime made out of empty fuel cans is the way to repurpose those tins!

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I burn old fuel in my HGP's as well. Having 16 or 17 of them now, my hobby has a serious drinking problem. 😂
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I just mix it 50/50 with new stuff and burn it in whatever needs fuel. Has always burned fine so far.
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Nice, I've heard stories about burning turpentine in HGP.
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get one of these and just dump it through a filter and into the tank

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Deuce & 1/2 ?

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I recall seeing a couple of those "Multi-Fuel" trucks. A motor pool sergeant told me they would run on anything, including piss & vinegar. He said there were Diesel shortages at times in Viet Nam, and they were forced to run a mixture of gasoline and 90 wt. gear oil. Smoked pretty badly, but worked OK. Don't try this with any modern rail system diesel engine.
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Run it in the kerosene models. Or I mix with fresh and burn it as normal in anything, filtered 3 times before use.
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A multi fuel deuce and a half can run on diesel, jet fuel, kerosene, lamp oil, used motor oil mixed with gasoline, straight vegetable oil, sour gasoline from the lawn mower in with any of the above. Even straight gasoline, but the engine won’t last long.
The only consideration when using oils is that it must have a similar viscosity to diesel so it can be pumped and injected reliably.
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