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Coleman "9a"?

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Need some help here on identifying this. I strongly suspect it being a 9a from the intlccc pdf; everdur check, 9 grate wire check, brown check, towel or back rest check. Only badge is missing on this so can't confirm and a rusty one ableit. Well if it isn't, still is a rare brown suitcase. Got this with another 415c from the marketplace thinking I found a later model 2 because of the strap legs but alas.
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With that burner setup I'd say a 9G.
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I like that :)
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Seems like 9g doesn't match. No pin on the pump.
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wow .... nice score.

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:shock: Just found something odd. Why did coleman put a airscrew thingamajiggy on the 415c cast burner manifold but just a hole on the mystery "9" ?
Never seen this mentioned before. Green one is the 415c rusty brown is the 9 something.
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luggnut wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:56 pm :shock: Just found something odd. Why did coleman put a airscrew thingamajiggy on the 415c cast burner manifold but just a hole on the mystery "9" ?
Never seen this mentioned before. Green one is the 415c rusty brown is the 9 something.
That's normally a drain in case of flooding on startup.
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That is a neat looking stove!!
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That looks like a 9A to me if those are cast iron "slotted" burners.
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Cast iron manifolds take a lot longer to heat up the than the stamped steel of the later ones, so in some conditions if the manifold is colder than the generator during light up I suppose the fuel can re-liquify and needs to be drained. Had to do it on my 373 once because I didn't preheat the generator enough.
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Yup cast iron burner and manifold, was asking over on ccs but wanted to confirm. Most seem to think 9g because this "9a" seems awfully out of sequence.
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I'm no expert, and I'm a little confused here: the 9G was supposedly one of the first suitcase stoves with the "standard" tank /generator configuration that we all know today. The earlier 9's had the arrangement where the burners and tank are connected as a unit with the tank attached outside of the case when in use. Here's a pic of both that I took from the ICCC book. Yours sure looks like the 9G to me?
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I've got no clue other than Dr. Marsh's site mid 1930s coleman stove section and StanDahl's own 9a to go from.Plus his article on the stove id pdf from the intlccc site.
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Very cool stove whatever the number/letter is.
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The 9A and 9B were issued out of sequence from the rest of the 9's for some reason. The 9A was never in a catalog, but it does show up in the parts diagrams along with the 9B, which came after the 9H. The 9A is brown and the 9B is green, but otherwise they seem to be identical. I wonder if the 9A was an effort to use up brown painted stove cases that were intended to be 9G's? It doesn't make any sense though, since the 9H's came in between, and they were green, so I just accept the 9A for what they are.

The 9G has Band-a-blu burners and a keyed pump stem and doesn't have a positive shut off. The pump and CV can be changed, but it's unlikely that anyone would change the burners. Except for the paint color, it could be a 9H with a replaced pump, because the 9H also had the keyed pump shaft and all that went with that arrangement.

I've always intended to put a page in the ICCC newsletter with 3 stoves that didn't make the book (9A, 2F & 9F), but I've never gotten around to it.
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