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First 200 single mantle

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So, got my single mantle rebuilt and burned in a new mantle tonight. Little joker makes a completely different sound than my dual mantle. Much louder. Also it had a marron color vent. Turned purple...lol dont know what it was painted with but looks a little funny. It prob wont work, but may try the vht paint I have been using on other parts. Its held up well on other high temp items. Am the only one not super impressed with them despite the high demand for them? Low output and sounds completely different. More like a jet going over low vs the normal calming hiss of the 220s and 288s I am familiar with.
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Whats the date on the bottom? Coleman did produce a few desirable burgundy's in late 61 - early 62. Post a pic before you spray you might have something.
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"Low output and sounds completely different. More like a jet going over low vs the normal calming hiss of the 220s and 288s "

Have you verified that the burner screen is installed and in good shape?
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It's a burgundy looking one. Went back to the normal color after cooling down. May have been some type of wax on it previous owner used to clean it up. The fount matched the top. Burner tube and screen are in good shape. Was taken completely apart and cleaned up.
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The color change in the vent is normal, some are more dramatic than others. I don't have a burg, but I would suspect that would get pretty dark when hot. One of my bright red tall-vent 200As turns very purple when hot. Some of my greenies turn to a brown-ish color. They all have gone back after a cool down.
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Pics!!! We need pictures!!
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As we saw in Muskie fishing, "Pics or it didn't happen"
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Do not wax or paint the vent
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It is likely a somewhat hard to find, desirable lantern. Post a pic.
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Second lantern from the front right is a burgundy 200A:

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It's a 10/61. These are more desirable to most than the regular reds.

The lower output and loud roaring are indications there's something wrong. Out put should be on par with a 220 double, and no noisier. Look to see if the burner screen is missing.
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Well folks I have the fount in the barn and the top on a fount I cleaned up. I may need to reunite the two. The cage is rusty and the fount is good but could use a paint job. I doubt it's worth too much but I can try and get a pic at some point.
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jhunter77 wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:10 pm Well folks I have the fount in the barn and the top on a fount I cleaned up. I may need to reunite the two. The cage is rusty and the fount is good but could use a paint job. I doubt it's worth too much but I can try and get a pic at some point.
Until then, turn it over read and post the date if you could ;)
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10-61 I believe on the marron fount. So it might be the right time period. Got a pic of the other one that now has the marron vent but am having trouble posting it.
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Only reason I moved the marron vent over was the original red vent had some big chips.
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jhunter77 wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:30 pm 10-61 I believe on the marron fount. So it might be the right time period. Got a pic of the other one that now has the marron vent but am having trouble posting it.
10-61 is definite burg timeline. Seems to be the most reported date. A keeper for sure.
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Man yall sure post up some nice pics, your lanterns really look great.
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>>Low output

Low output on a 200 or 200A means it ain't running right. Although 220's can run as bright, they rarely do.
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Everyone likes a burg, L-R - 2-62, 5-62, 10-61, 3-62
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Still working on pics but if I understand you correctly you are saying a single mantel will outshine a dual mantel? Could you explain that a little. I am guessing it has to do with efficiency or something? Better design? Also a normal 21 size mantel like the 220z take is the right on for the 200 size lantern correct?
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A 21 is fine, the slightly larger Peerless work great also.
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I'm just saying that 220's can burn very bright, but few of them burn as bright as the 200/200A's. Compare the larger burner cap on the 200 to the small burner caps on a 220 for example. Virtually every 200/200A burns bright. If one of mine isn't eye searing, I find the problem and resolve it.
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jhunter77 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:36 am Still working on pics but if I understand you correctly you are saying a single mantel will outshine a dual mantel? Could you explain that a little. I am guessing it has to do with efficiency or something? Better design? Also a normal 21 size mantel like the 220z take is the right on for the 200 size lantern correct?
I'll stir the pot a little....

A 220 throws a bit more light. (Ducking motion!)
We're glowing two mantles.
Pressure and flow are the next considerations.
Depending who you ask , there is more output from a 220.
Generator sizes are slight in difference between the two , not accounting for wear.
But trying to figure generator affect on output needs other variables added. Pressure again for one.

A200's single mantle seems bright of course when we're searing our eyes on it. But is that an effective way to measure output?

A 200 should still honk for sure. Don't wager your favorite lantern on it , but there is a claim a 220 can produce 250 watt equivalent vs 200 watts on a 200A.
Mantles vary. Individual lanterns vary. As does their condition and cleanliness.
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