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interesting 500A mod

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I am curious why this "needed" to be done. The stove looks to be in fantastic shape.
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Only the previous owner who did that knows...however, it's a 500A. (EDIT-wrong ID.)
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500 ???
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Gasman64 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:42 pm Only the previous owner who did that knows...however, it's a 500A.
I knew that :oops:
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Looks to me like the PO lost or destroyed the original grate and made his/her own.
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Hmmm. It seems like it was more effort to do what they did instead of just putting a new ring around the outside with four new support legs.

The rest of it looks great, though.
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Perhaps with the ring on it, it was a bit too big to fit into his favorite pot for packing.


Oh, I know, he was shaving some weight to make it lighter for backpacking
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My first impression is that he could have melted a lot of lead on it and the grate sunk. Thinking it was destroyed, made a new, heavy duty grate.
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Majicwrench wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:28 pm Perhaps with the ring on it, it was a bit too big to fit into his favorite pot for packing.


Oh, I know, he was shaving some weight to make it lighter for backpacking
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Other than the backpacking part, that's almost plausible.

But:

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It's the valve and Bunsen that are the largest. It takes a pot at least 11 1/2" dia to hold a 500 or 500A--unless you have a square pot, in which case 8" square works. I don't see that many square pots around, 'though.
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Strange one for sure. The pump and fill are only a couple inches apart on that fount? Mine are 180 apart. Looks like he may have used/made a grate with 8 legs that may or may not have matched up with the 8 holes you can see in the above photo. Being a Coleman you should have it working soon and grate is wide enough for good size pans.
Might add: After looking a bit more he/she took the round grate cut it down and added 8 legs and use the 8 holes in the burner plate to attach. For some reason wanted smaller grate with more support.
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With what looks like 3/8" bolts and the heavy duty grate maybe he was planning to melt a cauldron of iron ore.
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stoves1234 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:23 pm With what looks like 3/8" bolts and the heavy duty grate maybe he was planning to melt a cauldron of iron ore.
This was my thought as well. Maybe the PO wanted a heavier grate to hold a heavier pot? I guess we'll never know for sure. Really....looks kinda cool, though...
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After looking at it and the uncut one Timm posted , I think he may have cut the outer diameter ring off to make a wind screen that would just fit into the lip of the burner plate/heat shield . That would make everything more compact upon storing it as well. The wind screen has gone missing....My guess anyway.
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Most 500s that I've worked on have grates in pretty poor shape due to heat warping them. The welds break easy if you try to tweak them and honestly they are difficult to get flat. Somebody simply gave up and cut the original grate and welded those risers on so it wouldn't warp. It doesn't look like they did a hack job or anything. Maybe all you guys ever see is grates in nice condition but I've spent time on mine getting a pot to sit flat, allot of time, so I guess I can understand what's going on here.
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Daryl22 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:20 pm Strange one for sure. The pump and fill are only a couple inches apart on that fount? Mine are 180 apart. Looks like he may have used/made a grate with 8 legs that may or may not have matched up with the 8 holes you can see in the above photo. Being a Coleman you should have it working soon and grate is wide enough for good size pans.
Might add: After looking a bit more he/she took the round grate cut it down and added 8 legs and use the 8 holes in the burner plate to attach. For some reason wanted smaller grate with more support.
Nope. What you have is a painted 500, not a 500A.

500A:

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I think the green painted 500s were '51. Mine is a B '51, so second half. Note also that the filler cap of the painted 500 is the tiny one used on the 242s, while the 500A is the full-size three-piece.

BTW, green 500s are not terribly common.
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Yep Timm, I recently posted about my surprise when the 500 I bought had a painted fount. And guess what, mine was also a 51-B. It's on its way as we speak to a forum member.
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Where did these pics come from?
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Quick_Cal wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:47 pm Where did these pics come from?
It was on auctionzip but looks like it's already ended.

My only 500 is a painted '53 that I got shipped from Facebook. Never seen a 500 or 500A in the wild locally.
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Gunhippie wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:40 am

BTW, green 500s are not terribly common.
Timm I've got a B/46 US 500 and something 47 Canadian 500. The US was bare brass when I received it & the Canadian was a horrible repaint over mostly missing seafoam. I figure in 46 the US was painted, but 530's were nickel when nothing else was... So idk... Anyhow they're both custom paints now...

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