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Thinking about taking a stove with my on my family trip to Utah in a couple of weeks, in case I get a wild hair to do some cooking in the park (low likelihood, not a camping trip). I'm trying to travel light so it would likely be my Peak 1 442. Am I ok to try to put it in a checked bag(empty of fuel, of course)?
What i don't want to risk is it getting confiscated at the airport, and likely without time to return it to the car.
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Actually now that I think about it, the bigger issue is going to be finding fuel for it out there. I'm not paying $15+ for a gallon can and leaving the remainder just so I can heat a can of soup. I reckon I could use pump gas, but try to avoid it for cooking.
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What would be wrong with a small wood fueled fire, assuming no fire restrictions?
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You could carry a folded up, prepaid Flatrate box and a roll of tape. RDU has mail drop boxes in the terminal. I always waved at a skycap and told them that I was travelling with a checked firearm. This got me head of the line check-in and bag inspection. Don't know if they'd still X-ray your bag post-9/11/2001, but it got me in and out of airports in a hurry. Always had to hurry to baggage claim, because my armored box was always first out.

You could always whip up a three can T-LUD and leave it in Utah. It's a Gas No-Pressure Appliance. One new Gallon paint can with lid, one #10 (Coffee) can, and one tall one quart 14oz juice can. Pack a bag of wood pellets (even horse bedding or "Feline Pine" cat litter from Petsmart) and a little bottle of DNA (Or an old newspaper) and you're good for a week of evening wood fires. Little to no smoke, wood cooking smell, lots of heat and I've never been bothered about it in any National Forest campground. You have to be good to make popcorn on it if you're used to putting the popper in coals. Has to stay moving. ;)


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REJ2 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:49 pm What would be wrong with a small wood fueled fire, assuming no fire restrictions?
Just trying to use my gear, that's all.
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Hot_Diggity wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:25 pm You could carry a folded up, prepaid Flatrate box and a roll of tape. RDU has mail drop boxes in the terminal. I always waved at a skycap and told them that I was travelling with a checked firearm. This got me head of the line check-in and bag inspection. Don't know if they'd still X-ray your bag post-9/11/2001, but it got me in and out of airports in a hurry. Always had to hurry to baggage claim, because my armored box was always first out.

You could always whip up a three can T-LUD and leave it in Utah. It's a Gas No-Pressure Appliance. One new Gallon paint can with lid, one #10 (Coffee) can, and one tall one quart 14oz juice can. Pack a bag of wood pellets (even horse bedding or "Feline Pine" cat litter from Petsmart) and a little bottle of DNA (Or an old newspaper) and you're good for a week of evening wood fires. Little to no smoke, wood cooking smell, lots of heat and I've never been bothered about it in any National Forest campground. You have to be good to make popcorn on it if you're used to putting the popper in coals. Has to stay moving. ;)


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Good suggestios as always Chuck, but again with my fuel problem. I forgot I actually have a cynlinder topper propane burner that I can easily throw in my luggage and buy a single cylindre. I don't like using it compared to my liquid fueld appliances, but its a decent choice for this limited use case.
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The return trip with fuel vapors in the fount may be an issue. Call the TSA at RDU and bombard them with questions. They're supposed to be the experts. I flew to Japan with a can of VHT spraypaint and two gallons of aircraft coating remover in my carry-on bag. Bet you couldn't do that now.
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I used my isobutane stove when I went to Alaska, picked up fuel at the REI in Anchorage and left the balance at the hostel. Easy.
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I think you have to turn off all lanterns and stoves when the seat belt sign is on.
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D421 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:10 pm I think you have to turn off all lanterns and stoves when the seat belt sign is on.
That's just a suggestion
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Actually, not enough thrust produced by the 442 to get you in the air ... so I recommend leaving it behind and flying with an airline aircraft instead .... ✈
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Last time I got on a plane, they had me remove two NOS Primus alcohol containers from my luggage and throw them in the trash, did not matter they never had alcohol in them, I would be leery of taking anything that may have contained fuel in my suitcase.

Best bet is to get a butane backpacking stove without the fuel, that way, they will not flag your bag.
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https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-scr ... amp-stoves

The big thing would be not smelling any gas. They shouldn’t make you throw it away tho. Just make sure to take out the lithium batteries before checking it ;P
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Not exactly relevant, and I don't recommend, but a couple of stories on topic...

Back in the summer of 2013 I took the family 'state-side flying from Zurich into Chicago then on to Salt Lake and back out via Chicago again. So 2 fully international and 2 internal flights.
All the way ZRH to SLC I had a 533 likely full of CF, plus a Trangia and bottle of DNA in checked bags.
In Yellowstone I bought a can of Crown fuel. Coming home I had all this, plus a full crown can again in checked in baggage. :o

Never a problem. :shock:

In hindsight and hearing all the above, the Coleman Gods must have been watching over me and my stoves + fuel! :?

A couple years back I also bought a 200a and had it shipped to a friend of mine in the US. It turned up just as he left for the airport for Zurich. He is no GPA expert, and simply took it out the box and put it into his hand luggage. He somehow made it here and when I met him to collect it the fount was half full with CF. I cannot imagine how he got anywhere with that?
I'm really glad he never got into trouble due to me and a 200a...

Edit to add: I just realised that 533 was my first ever Coleman! I even have a photo of me cooking with both in Yellowstone.
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Carlton,

Where are you going in UT? If you are going through Cedar City, I could fix you up with a tank of fuel.

When I worked at Joshua Tree NP, most people that flew would bring a small butane or single burner propane. Then when done, leave the fuel can in our recycling bin and then take the stove back with them. We would get a few with a single burner peak stove now and then.

Just make sure you air it out for a day before you fly, and you should be fine.
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MotorcycleDan wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:38 pm Carlton,

Where are you going in UT? If you are going through Cedar City, I could fix you up with a tank of fuel.

When I worked at Joshua Tree NP, most people that flew would bring a small butane or single burner propane. Then when done, leave the fuel can in our recycling bin and then take the stove back with them. We would get a few with a single burner peak stove now and then.

Just make sure you air it out for a day before you fly, and you should be fine.
Hey Dan, thanks for the kind offer. We're doing Zion, Bryce, and Grand Canyon (in that order), so reasonably near Cedar City though we're largely going to stay south and east. I'd really only need about a pint of fuel for my 442, which is as much as I'd plan on packing. I don't have any planned camp meals, just thinking having the option would be nice/fun.
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I have flown both domestic and international multiple times with used lamps and GPAs. To date I have not had a problem, but I have also been prepared. It really boils down to the agent checking your luggage, their awareness of the rules, and the mood they’re in that day. My advice is to learn the regs and know them better than the TSA agent you’ll be up against. Print out copies of the rules/regs that support your argument and have them with you at screening and you’ll be just fine 👍 The following website contains TSA guidance on what you can and can’t bring and should be all you need for domestic travel. It addresses both camping equipment and flammables:
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-scr ... nd-camping
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THat's good stuff, Jake. Thanks.
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Make you a couple of alcohol burners from soda cans once you’re there…. They actually do pretty decent in a pinch and burn rubbing alcohol which would be readily available and not cost too much. You have to devise a way to keep the pot above the burner somewhat though, couple of logs or bricks maybe…. Just a thought….
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Carlton, Few years back me and wife landed in Bozeman Mt. rented car and meet up with Son's family for trip to Yellowstone Nat. Park. I packed sm pocket rocket and important sm carbon steel fry pan. The 6 of us had grilled cheese with tomato soup while flyfishing the Yellowstone River. Could have picked up fry pan along with fuel and groceries but nice to use your own equipment. Have fun on your adventure. Been to those spots with family too. Daryl sunny SoCal
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Excellent info Jake!
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